Friday, June 11, 2004
Stairway to Heaven Backwards Full Lyrics
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Because I've noticed some people searching for the "full lyrics to Stairway to Heaven reversed" and probably find my backmasking page lacking in that regard, I will post an email that I received this morning, partly here and partly in the comments. (It's too long to include the whole thing on the main page.)Well, you have certainly caused a stir here. It seems that everybody is flocking to your site. Nice work. I must tell you, though, you have it wrong. Here are the lyrics to the part that you have on your site:
So here's to my Sweet Satan.
The other's little path
Would make me sad,
Whose power is faith.
He'll give those with him 666.
And all the evil fools,
they know he made
us suffer sadly.
I have discovered that the ENTIRE Stairway To Heaven is a full and COMPLETE backwards message. EVERY word from start to finish is undeniable and distinguishable.
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Granted the lyrics he provides are possible, but I still hear the lyrics I originally posted. I listened to the whole song backwards with these "full and complete lyrics" in front of me and yeah a lot of them you can hear - the power of suggestion is pretty strong. But a lot of the words are hard to hear imagine, even when you know what you are listening for. Let me just finish by saying that anyone who believes this whole Stairway to Heaven backmasking thing is anything more than a neat coincidence is not the sharpest crayon in the box. Sorry guys, I know its fun and everything but let's get real.
For example, I had a different person recently thank me in an email and tell me about how she was throwing her old albums away because of it...
Dear Jeff,
Thanks for your Stairway to Heaven (and other songs) backwards! I'm putting my old Led Zeppelin albums from the 70's in the trash straight away!
Much appreciated!
Rita
I can hardly believe it. Next time you or anybody you know, wants to throw out collectors items including their old Stairway to Heaven vinyls, please send them to me instead.
posted by Jeff Milner at 6/11/2004 09:40:00 AM
Comments: 172(Permalink)
Comments:
Here is the email from A.seijas:
I have discovered that the ENTIRE Stairway To Heaven is a full and COMPLETE backwards message. EVERY word from start to finish is undeniable and distinguishable. Easily heard if you know what to look for. I wired an old record player's motor to run in reverse, and got out my old copy of the album. It's very scary. As I played it backwards last night over 10 times, I got chills down my spine every time. How it was done, I haven't a clue. I have changed my opinion that the computer is the best vehicle to listen to it backwards. It was definitely made for vinyl, and the needle moving in the wrong direction combined with the grooves of the record make it clearer. I don't think that the computer can duplicate that. THIS below is the absolute and correct translation of the lyrics to 'Stairway To Hell' WORD FOR WORD without any chance of there being any mistakes.
Trust me, THIS IS IT:
Plaaaay backwards,
Hear why its sung here, oppositioner..
Allll on track, all arriving
They all sing, and they are one.
Shall I loathe you now, parishoner?
Oh hear Him, Christian within me.
It stirs my sin; the river,
Oh, she swells with our lousiness.
All my life will end for him?
We're all out of signs,
I know I'm sorta shocked
To hear The Lord,
My God now will save me!
Oh I will n'er be saved,
Because I live with Satan..
One wish today;
That you'll all pray for
Three who will make it here late.
Pray now and you'll see..
The 'Lord' turned me on,
But, oh, I was the shaggy fool..
Clothed in agony,
Lost at a height.
There's no escaping it,
Nor his woes..
So here's to my Sweet Satan.
The other's little path
Would make me sad,
Whose power is faith.
He'll give those with him 666.
And all the evil fools,
they know he made
us suffer sadly.
Ohohohoh...
"Family won't get loose,
They're offered me."
Always soothes the worker.
Always will be as we know now
"I see ruins," said he,
"the world they offered me?
Who wished the Lord's fall?"
If we lose feather,
Say you'll save me!
And no wimps can bend the rules..
And no wimps can do..
Hunt next to the shore,
'Cause they see all from there,
See here's the news,
Who walks with mute grief!
Perhaps no-one found thee...
"Heavy, lift me out,"
Spake the Reve,
"Someday, failed, we'll lose one line-up,
They've gotta leave forsaken."
And no wimps can do..
And no wimps can do...
He, who say the lords
Thoth have our laws,
Maat must be superb. Mass is ended..
Over there,
He who should learn thee.
Any moot that serves by my sworn music,
I wish it with snow be shushed,
All for my mass's sake.
Hear why its sung,
here, oppositioner, Ohh..
He who should show
May make his show worthy,
To look, for us, odd.. sickly,
There's one chance - take his show.
Hold thy head,
Hear why its sung here. oppositioner.
Who owns this earth built below?
Oh sweet Israel...
I have discovered that the ENTIRE Stairway To Heaven is a full and COMPLETE backwards message. EVERY word from start to finish is undeniable and distinguishable. Easily heard if you know what to look for. I wired an old record player's motor to run in reverse, and got out my old copy of the album. It's very scary. As I played it backwards last night over 10 times, I got chills down my spine every time. How it was done, I haven't a clue. I have changed my opinion that the computer is the best vehicle to listen to it backwards. It was definitely made for vinyl, and the needle moving in the wrong direction combined with the grooves of the record make it clearer. I don't think that the computer can duplicate that. THIS below is the absolute and correct translation of the lyrics to 'Stairway To Hell' WORD FOR WORD without any chance of there being any mistakes.
Trust me, THIS IS IT:
Plaaaay backwards,
Hear why its sung here, oppositioner..
Allll on track, all arriving
They all sing, and they are one.
Shall I loathe you now, parishoner?
Oh hear Him, Christian within me.
It stirs my sin; the river,
Oh, she swells with our lousiness.
All my life will end for him?
We're all out of signs,
I know I'm sorta shocked
To hear The Lord,
My God now will save me!
Oh I will n'er be saved,
Because I live with Satan..
One wish today;
That you'll all pray for
Three who will make it here late.
Pray now and you'll see..
The 'Lord' turned me on,
But, oh, I was the shaggy fool..
Clothed in agony,
Lost at a height.
There's no escaping it,
Nor his woes..
So here's to my Sweet Satan.
The other's little path
Would make me sad,
Whose power is faith.
He'll give those with him 666.
And all the evil fools,
they know he made
us suffer sadly.
Ohohohoh...
"Family won't get loose,
They're offered me."
Always soothes the worker.
Always will be as we know now
"I see ruins," said he,
"the world they offered me?
Who wished the Lord's fall?"
If we lose feather,
Say you'll save me!
And no wimps can bend the rules..
And no wimps can do..
Hunt next to the shore,
'Cause they see all from there,
See here's the news,
Who walks with mute grief!
Perhaps no-one found thee...
"Heavy, lift me out,"
Spake the Reve,
"Someday, failed, we'll lose one line-up,
They've gotta leave forsaken."
And no wimps can do..
And no wimps can do...
He, who say the lords
Thoth have our laws,
Maat must be superb. Mass is ended..
Over there,
He who should learn thee.
Any moot that serves by my sworn music,
I wish it with snow be shushed,
All for my mass's sake.
Hear why its sung,
here, oppositioner, Ohh..
He who should show
May make his show worthy,
To look, for us, odd.. sickly,
There's one chance - take his show.
Hold thy head,
Hear why its sung here. oppositioner.
Who owns this earth built below?
Oh sweet Israel...
Comment posted by Jeff Milner at 6/11/2004 10:00 AM (Permalink)
That is my email, Jeff, and I told you that the vinyl sounds different than the computer. I have no doubt that you used your MP3 to reverse it, and that is why you hear your lyric version. I can also guarantee that you only heard some of the translation I sent you because of the same reason. Your lyric version doesn't make sense, either. While I guess I may not be the sharpest crayon in the box, this can be no coincidence. I suggest to you, my friend, that you listen to the song the way I did. IT IS UNDENIABLE.
Comment posted by alanseijas at 6/11/2004 1:03 PM (Permalink)
I want to hear the whole thing. I think it's freaky but who thought of playing it backwards in the first place did Led Zepplin admit he loves satan too?
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/11/2004 9:01 PM (Permalink)
I don't believe what you're saying.
You hear what you want to hear,
and when I want to hear he sings about what I should get from the grocery store, I hear just that!
Hoax.
You hear what you want to hear,
and when I want to hear he sings about what I should get from the grocery store, I hear just that!
Hoax.
Comment posted by RJ de Wit at 6/12/2004 5:26 AM (Permalink)
You are ignorant to say anything about it unless you listen to it backwards on vinyl. Go do it, and write me a new set of lyrics about groceries. Good luck.
Comment posted by alanseijas at 6/12/2004 7:46 AM (Permalink)
wasn't someone in Led Zeppelin friend to Anton Szandor Lavey? the man behind modern Satanisim?
If so it would all make sense, at least to me it would. I haven't got a copy of the whole song backward, haven't looked. But still I think it is nice...
I feel good hearing his sweet voice sing about satan. Dunno why, it just is...
Foamyfoamy@yahoo.se
- Foamy
If so it would all make sense, at least to me it would. I haven't got a copy of the whole song backward, haven't looked. But still I think it is nice...
I feel good hearing his sweet voice sing about satan. Dunno why, it just is...
Foamyfoamy@yahoo.se
- Foamy
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/12/2004 2:47 PM (Permalink)
I think that this discovery is a very interesting one. I would very much like a vinyl of this and also to rig a record player to play backwards (I have no clue how). I think that this was intended by Led Zeplin though I have yet you hear the full song backwards. Though I cannot say if they would have done this through real satanic inspiration, it seems many of the phrases are questionable such as "if there's a bustle in your hedgegrow" ans so on. Also I noticed the unique way that the singer (I dont know his name) anunciated the words at times. It seems he used special care to give certain hardly noticed spaces such as when he says "It's just a spring queen for the May queen." This is very interesting, do you know of a way I can play an MP3 backwards? I am very interested to get my own take on this.
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/12/2004 5:32 PM (Permalink)
ok I saw this site and belived it but but I kept trying to figure it out till i finnaly sung it into sound recorder and reversed my own voice, and you get the same satanic messages. If you dont get it then play the song in the backround and sing to it. I even had several people try it and they all had the same results. it also works with another one bites the dust and brittney spears..the other to are intentional...thats why they sound so clear and not warped like the others. I know its crazy but it is a coinsidence, try it yourself
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/12/2004 10:05 PM (Permalink)
The song backwards is eery, and I like it equally in both directions!
I don't know where you'd find a vinyl copy these days. Maybe ebay, but I haven't checked. Luckily for me, I still have my old one from 25 years ago. All you have to do to "rig" a record player to play backwards is reverse the power wires feeding the motor. With my player, I have to use the '45' speed setting to play it at the correct speed. I don't know why-- maybe because the gears are going in reverse. Also, it's "If there's a bustle in your HEDGEROW" --- no G, and "It's just a spring CLEAN for the May queen." Jeff has told us how to reverse it on MP3, but (again, as I've said) it is much clearer on vinyl.
You have done those experiments, and you still think it's a coincidence? That surprises me. I have played my vinyl backwards for MANY people now, and they ALL agree with me. This is WAY too much to be a coincidence, because they hear EVERY word that is written here. Some of us don't even need to read the lyrics anymore, because the words are so clear.
Jeff, did you get my second email? Would you please honor my request?
I don't know where you'd find a vinyl copy these days. Maybe ebay, but I haven't checked. Luckily for me, I still have my old one from 25 years ago. All you have to do to "rig" a record player to play backwards is reverse the power wires feeding the motor. With my player, I have to use the '45' speed setting to play it at the correct speed. I don't know why-- maybe because the gears are going in reverse. Also, it's "If there's a bustle in your HEDGEROW" --- no G, and "It's just a spring CLEAN for the May queen." Jeff has told us how to reverse it on MP3, but (again, as I've said) it is much clearer on vinyl.
You have done those experiments, and you still think it's a coincidence? That surprises me. I have played my vinyl backwards for MANY people now, and they ALL agree with me. This is WAY too much to be a coincidence, because they hear EVERY word that is written here. Some of us don't even need to read the lyrics anymore, because the words are so clear.
Jeff, did you get my second email? Would you please honor my request?
Comment posted by alanseijas at 6/13/2004 7:26 AM (Permalink)
dude this discovery could freak out the most hardcare rocker but its all because of the member who did indeed worship satin
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/13/2004 4:48 PM (Permalink)
This whole thing freaks me out....I was thinking, maybe this is like, subliminal messaging. Maybe to promote satanism, the smoking of marijuana, etc. But anyway it freaked me out, but i think it would be cool to hear the whole song reversed.
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/14/2004 2:33 PM (Permalink)
Jeff I was wondering of you could send me the whole song played back ward and i dont beleive in satan but it sounds awsome how you can find words like that by just playin it back wards so if you could please honor my request i would greatly appreaceat it thatnk you very much
Email captncoke23@msn,com
Email captncoke23@msn,com
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/14/2004 9:07 PM (Permalink)
The problem with emailing the song backwards is that if I save it "high quality" then the file size will be too large to email but if I reduce the size then sound quality is lost. Although some might disagree (which is fine) I think that a high quality wav file copied from a CD is as good as hearing it on vinyl, but with the amount of compression in a 128kbps or lower mp3 file it's just not worth it. I recommend buying the CD, or finding a high quality MP3 and do the reversal yourself. I use Sony's SoundForge to reverse MP3's.
Comment posted by Jeff Milner at 6/14/2004 11:23 PM (Permalink)
To record your'e own Stairway to heaven backwards you'll need audacity (https://audacity.sourceforge.net), then download a regular version of S T H, and simply add it to the audacity program. Choose effects/reverse or something like that, and there you have it.
Comment posted by William Lindeberg at 6/15/2004 2:54 PM (Permalink)
This is definetly amazing...even backwards the song is very beautiful though its words are indeed creapy...i dont have a record player so i just took the mp3 and reversed it and you can still make out the messages though it is a bit Scetchy....oh and for the person who posted a ways above me...Zeppelin is more than one person
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/15/2004 3:46 PM (Permalink)
Hey im on 15, but i love this song as much as the next person and know a fair bit about my music.I wont deny that this is pretty bloody scary, but theres been anough said about rockers, especially old ones. KISS - knights in satans service, AC/DC - anti christs/ devils childeren. Their job isnt to create hate, horror or satanizm, they are out to try and write songs for us, their fans. This song may be satanic in reverse, i was pretty scared when i heard it in reverse on the site, but this doesnt change my idea of led zeppelin or the song. It may not be a conisedence, but i dont think its neccesarily a bad thing either, i think he is singing a song written about satan, not a song written FOR satan by him or anyone. I dont think that those are the exact worde either, close but slightly off. In the version on the site, if you swap a few words then its really not pro satan at all, and other phrases in the song are so indefinent that very broad opinions could be cast on them. I dont think that this song reflects the band at all, its scary ill give it that.
YAKKA (angusforever@hotmail.com)
YAKKA (angusforever@hotmail.com)
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/16/2004 3:41 AM (Permalink)
I just listened to the reverse file and could vaguely make out the lyrics said to form a message throughout the song when played backwards. It seems almost impossible for this to be a strange coicidence and could only mean that it was intentional on the part of Led Zeplin. I reversed it on my computer and it may turn out different on record, but that is something which i wish not to find out.
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/16/2004 12:07 PM (Permalink)
i have a question....in the movie "little nicky" adam sandler plays a record by chicago...i was wondering if the song he played realy does that when played backwards...thanks
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/16/2004 1:25 PM (Permalink)
With regards to the Led Zepplin song played backwards... is there anyone out there who has ANY idea at all about Satanism? Anyone who has been involved in it? etc.
From the people I know who were at one stage deeply involved in satanism, one of the first things you get told to do as a satanist is to read everything backwards, read the bible backwards, listen to music backwards etc etc etc.
Now, knowing that, is it so suprising that many songs and books etc have satanic msgs when used backwards? Because generally most people do not listen to music backwards... and from what I have read and heard, Led Zepplin did not in any way plan to have that backwards message, but as previously mentioned, certain members of his band were indeed associated with satanic worship, which could... just possibly... bring satanic influence over their recordings without their ever knowing of it.
Therefore, Satan would know what satanists are taught, and would he not want them to hear his hidden messages more conciously... Not that the average human won't pick it up once the song gets into the mind the mind can powerfully decipher things in the subconcious that we have no knowledge of conciously... but I think its more specifically aimed at those who Satan wishes to have concious knowledge.
I think that when we put a few facts together with our assumptions etc. things become very clear.
We wonder why the world is goin crazy these days?
Is it because our entertainment artists are bad people? No.
Is it because of drugz sex and alcohol? No.
It's merely because Satan is digging his hands into everything that we submerge ourselves in, making sure that there are underlying messages in everything which then start to shape the way we think on certain issues etc. Which then leads to our standards slowly getting lower and lower... Which then leads to children being overwhelmed with sex and drugz and murder and hate and depression... Which then lead to things like excessive sexuality at younger ages, drug abuse, suicide, etc etc etc.
It's all an attack on the young people of this world in an attempt to destroy them and the future generations... and its not just an attack on americans or westerners, its happening world wide!
This generation needs a loving relationship with Jesus more than ever before! and if you can't see it, perhaps you need the same :)
Feel free to discuss this with me...
FoRdO - chaplainfordy@yahoo.com.au
God Bless you! :)
From the people I know who were at one stage deeply involved in satanism, one of the first things you get told to do as a satanist is to read everything backwards, read the bible backwards, listen to music backwards etc etc etc.
Now, knowing that, is it so suprising that many songs and books etc have satanic msgs when used backwards? Because generally most people do not listen to music backwards... and from what I have read and heard, Led Zepplin did not in any way plan to have that backwards message, but as previously mentioned, certain members of his band were indeed associated with satanic worship, which could... just possibly... bring satanic influence over their recordings without their ever knowing of it.
Therefore, Satan would know what satanists are taught, and would he not want them to hear his hidden messages more conciously... Not that the average human won't pick it up once the song gets into the mind the mind can powerfully decipher things in the subconcious that we have no knowledge of conciously... but I think its more specifically aimed at those who Satan wishes to have concious knowledge.
I think that when we put a few facts together with our assumptions etc. things become very clear.
We wonder why the world is goin crazy these days?
Is it because our entertainment artists are bad people? No.
Is it because of drugz sex and alcohol? No.
It's merely because Satan is digging his hands into everything that we submerge ourselves in, making sure that there are underlying messages in everything which then start to shape the way we think on certain issues etc. Which then leads to our standards slowly getting lower and lower... Which then leads to children being overwhelmed with sex and drugz and murder and hate and depression... Which then lead to things like excessive sexuality at younger ages, drug abuse, suicide, etc etc etc.
It's all an attack on the young people of this world in an attempt to destroy them and the future generations... and its not just an attack on americans or westerners, its happening world wide!
This generation needs a loving relationship with Jesus more than ever before! and if you can't see it, perhaps you need the same :)
Feel free to discuss this with me...
FoRdO - chaplainfordy@yahoo.com.au
God Bless you! :)
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/16/2004 8:04 PM (Permalink)
Who cares about Satan or God. Heaven and Hell are just fantasy, sure fantasy is fun to think about now and then but not to dwell upon or build your life around like the person who wrote the post above me does. I reversed a studio recording or starway to heaven on soundforge and listened to it backwards and it sounds pretty good. The chourus is the most clearest, but you could chop and change alot of stuff to make other words. When i think about it im sure that if they wanted to put a real message in there they would make it a bit clearer...hmm? Oh well, Peace.
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/16/2004 11:21 PM (Permalink)
obviously you dont think before your post because they had to have it make sense both forwards and backwards. if you listen to the pink floyd its obviously recorded backwards on purpose but Led Zepplin did something amazing. if you think about it, then its not to scary cause i believe they did it on purpose, its about a stairway to heaven if you go up you will be in heaven but if you go down aka reverse your going to end up in hell. Plus if you reverse the live version i have heard the message is not clear, so obviously the purposly did it in the recording studio. this is something incredible and everyone should see it as it truly is, and not a sign of the appocolypse or satan trying to ruin our lives and kill our souls, just a band maybe satanic writing an incredible songs. and people complain the lyrics dont make sense in reverse. well can u explain to me the meaning of everyword forward.... i didnt think so.
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/17/2004 3:20 PM (Permalink)
Mate, after hearing this song i went to bed shivering, that there is something scary. All my life i have idolized led zeppelin and to now learn that they are satanic, it kinda threw me a bit, but oh well ill get over it, im with the person above me, this goes to show just how talented the band really was, to write 8 minutes of music in two directions is pretty bloody special, but who am i to say anything? i dont know satanism and i dont know much about what the son means, all i can notice is if that is a secret message then jeez, they r a scary bunch, but if the song is simply as the other person put it, descending the stairway to heaven then they are nothing but one of the most talented and influential rock bands of our history
Later
Later
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/18/2004 10:23 PM (Permalink)
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Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/21/2004 7:59 AM (Permalink)
I like the song better forwards, i think ill listen to it that way thanks mate, but i dont mind if you wanna crack open monkey skulls to drink the brain juices and listen to songs backwards trying to get words out of em, but dont tell me about it.
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/22/2004 7:23 PM (Permalink)
Ok well I first listened to it on your site and now its stuck in my head and im dying to hear the full version. Im a young person but I appreciate all music and im not like most people my age. I listend to the live version full reverse and I cant make much out off it and I dont know how to reverse play on vinyl but I have Stairway on vinyl :P
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/23/2004 8:47 PM (Permalink)
when i first herd stairway to hevon bacward i was flippin out i told everyone about it in my opinion the idea of a song about heaven and backwards a song about hell was intentional before they even wrote it and it clearly says in the songs clues to listen to it backwords like you know sometimes words have 2 meanings, listen to the voice who stand looking, there are 2 paths u can go, and if u listen very hard, dude im FREAKED
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/24/2004 9:34 PM (Permalink)
brr..... i havent heard it but just the comments are freaking me out :-P
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/25/2004 1:08 PM (Permalink)
I had an idea on this myself.
Personally, this music backwards sounds alot like the music being published today, such as alot of rock, some rap, and r/b.
So...
If you play rap backwards do you get REAL music?
Personally, this music backwards sounds alot like the music being published today, such as alot of rock, some rap, and r/b.
So...
If you play rap backwards do you get REAL music?
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/26/2004 1:19 AM (Permalink)
oh my freaking god, i listened to that short clip, then read full version lyrics then read comments just a minute ago, i am shaking!! i am so freaked out by all of that and the comments a man said about like real satanism and reading everyhting backwards and sh**. I pretty much don't follow any religion but this is really scaring me...sometimes i am scared about death and really just want to follow god times like these...that scare me and wont let me sleep at night. But i know me an other peoplre that hear these lyrics and read comments are just going to forget about this and just go on with their lives until they die or the end of the world comes. There is just no hope.
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/27/2004 10:21 PM (Permalink)
i cant believe this. i just bought a new zeppelin shirt today and i feel like burning it. I knew Page was satanic but i didnt really think he would put it in a song like that. that is really creepy- its funny how everyone is freaked out about the song even though it is probably one of the best songs of all time... just something to think about.
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/27/2004 11:11 PM (Permalink)
dude this sh** is tight! the way its backwards and the hints in the song...it must have took zeppelin hella long to write the lyrics to go both ways and make sense both ways...only thing thats confusing to me backwards is the "666" part. the sixth letter of the alphabet is F. "FFF"..?? maybe 66.6-two thirds of something?? who knows...the britney spears one is so clear its wierd..i bet some guy who wrote her lyrics made it as a joke haha...keep doin wat ur doin jeff ur a genius
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/28/2004 1:30 PM (Permalink)
To the guy that doesn't know, the "666" number is a biblical reference. In the revelation, it says that Stan will make all his followers write 666 on their heads.
Comment posted by Anonymous at 6/30/2004 5:15 PM (Permalink)
Interesting that my previous comment on the utter stupidity of backwards messaging has been deleted.
Anyhow, just to point out a few things. All the band members have outright condemmed the notion that the placed backward messages in Stairway to Heaven, citing it as a wholly American idea to search for such things. Given some of the ridiculous and quite frankly stupid comments posted on this board I would have to agree with them. Mind you, given a population on 270 million, they can't all be genii, can they?
One final point is that the brain doesn't have the cognitive capacity to understand reversed messages when the song is played in the correct way. Why bother going to all the trouble just to get poeple to play LPs backwards all day? I'm sure that back in the day, Page et al would rather you spent money on concert tickets than new needles for your record player.
Once again in the words of Bill Hicks, "If you sit around listening to records backwards all day, you ARE Satan, and don't go ruining my stereo just to prove a f***ing point."
Anyhow, just to point out a few things. All the band members have outright condemmed the notion that the placed backward messages in Stairway to Heaven, citing it as a wholly American idea to search for such things. Given some of the ridiculous and quite frankly stupid comments posted on this board I would have to agree with them. Mind you, given a population on 270 million, they can't all be genii, can they?
One final point is that the brain doesn't have the cognitive capacity to understand reversed messages when the song is played in the correct way. Why bother going to all the trouble just to get poeple to play LPs backwards all day? I'm sure that back in the day, Page et al would rather you spent money on concert tickets than new needles for your record player.
Once again in the words of Bill Hicks, "If you sit around listening to records backwards all day, you ARE Satan, and don't go ruining my stereo just to prove a f***ing point."
Comment posted by Anonymous at 7/01/2004 6:35 AM (Permalink)
Well, I guess for you; ignorance is bliss. Your spelling is pathetic as well. 1. It does NOT damage a record player's needle by spinning an album backwards. Grooves are grooves in both directions. 2. For the band to deny this doesn't matter at all. Even they may be ignorant to the fact that the backmasking exists (and it undeniably does whether YOU choose to believe it or not). 3. I am not Satan by ANY means. The fact that I (we) have curiosity about our purpose here on Earth only shows that we are Human.
Comment posted by alanseijas at 7/01/2004 7:37 PM (Permalink)
Well if your purpose is to sit and listen to records backwards all day then you are seriously missing out on what life has to offer.
Clearly, being American, you have also missed the rather subtle irony in my post. It must only be in the Land of Hope and Glory that people would attempt to deomise those whose songs bring hope to many and show the glory of music.
If my spellig is bad (two mistakes), then your grammar leaves a lot to be desired too my friend.
Clearly, being American, you have also missed the rather subtle irony in my post. It must only be in the Land of Hope and Glory that people would attempt to deomise those whose songs bring hope to many and show the glory of music.
If my spellig is bad (two mistakes), then your grammar leaves a lot to be desired too my friend.
Comment posted by Anonymous at 7/02/2004 5:04 AM (Permalink)
hey... when i heard the "if there's a bustle..." clip backwards, i was devastated/freaked out. Firstly, cuz i LOVE(D) stairway to heaven before i heard about the 'supposed' satanic messages, and secondly, it just gave me chills after hearing it (I listened to it at nite). I was advised to delete all my led zep stuff cuz ppl said that they are a satanic group. But i have been doing some research and ppl are saying that stairway to heaven is not satanic, and it is wrong to judge led zep to be satanic just cuz of rumours. Also, I have not heard the whole stairway to heaven in reverse, but apparently it is all a satanic msg, start to finish. I would like to listen to it to see if it is true. If it is all one big satanic msg, i think it's pretty hard to disprove that it was all just one coincidence, but anyways... i'd like to hear it for myself. so if anyone has the WHOLE reverse song, or a link to it, can they plz post it. THANK YOU.
Comment posted by Anonymous at 7/02/2004 9:02 AM (Permalink)
I listened to my vinyls that my dad has, it doesnt disturb me like some of you, its not the end of the world or the cause of corruption, just a band doing a song, an odd satanic song but still we have free speech dont we? Musta been hard to get the lyrics etc down properly, 2 versions overlapping, making sense both ways, for 8 minutes. If Led Zep likes satan, thats their choice each person can do what they want, no point in burning the records cause thatd be a waste of money, The only problem i have with the song is that some of the lyrics make little sense, but then again its rare that any song makes perfect sense.
Comment posted by Anonymous at 7/02/2004 10:58 PM (Permalink)
Good lord!! If you're stupid enough to belive in god or satan, then you're probably stupid enough to belive that led zeppelin wrote one of the greatest songs of all time just to make it sound like some meaningless jibberish backwards.
So I'l just let you carry on.
I think the rest of us are painfully aware of the fact that writing a song that lasts for over 7 minutes, that has a meaning both forwards and backwards, is virtually impossible. Anything Robert Plant sings backwards that might sound vagely like the word satan is a pure coincidence.
And as for the "meaningless sentences" such as "if there's a bustle in your hedgerow" they can also easely be axplained. I mean, come on, don't forget when, and by who, this song was written. You dont actually think Robert Plant and Jimmy Page were sober when they wrote this song?
Take my advice, use your common sence and don't belive everything you want to hear..
So I'l just let you carry on.
I think the rest of us are painfully aware of the fact that writing a song that lasts for over 7 minutes, that has a meaning both forwards and backwards, is virtually impossible. Anything Robert Plant sings backwards that might sound vagely like the word satan is a pure coincidence.
And as for the "meaningless sentences" such as "if there's a bustle in your hedgerow" they can also easely be axplained. I mean, come on, don't forget when, and by who, this song was written. You dont actually think Robert Plant and Jimmy Page were sober when they wrote this song?
Take my advice, use your common sence and don't belive everything you want to hear..
Comment posted by Anonymous at 7/03/2004 6:57 PM (Permalink)
"Stupid enough to believe in god or satan" ? post something respectable. we all have our beliefs so why dont you stop pretending that everyone agrees with you and be quiet.
Comment posted by Anonymous at 7/04/2004 7:42 PM (Permalink)
Ok, wow. Ignorance abounds, generally because people are so very easily led.
It's true, the human brain cannot understand backwards messages. It's also true certain Led Zepplin members were into the occult. Thelema, to be exact, which is in no way Satanism, although Anton LeVey (father of modern Satanism) was a Thelamite at one time. Thelema is basically a hedonistic religion that focuses on individual improvement and spiritual awareness. (Hedonism is the belief that enjoying yourself and having a genuinely fulfilling life is more important than following society's rules. Sort-of. That's an extremely simplistic explanation, but I'm trying to be kind to the stupid.) Point being, there would be no point in their trying to turn people on to Satan when they (the band) aren't Satanists.
And fear of Satan is silly. Sorry, but it's true, and I'm saying that as a spiritual person. If you really believe there are demons trying to get you, you have more problems than backwards messages in old songs from the 70s.
It's true, the human brain cannot understand backwards messages. It's also true certain Led Zepplin members were into the occult. Thelema, to be exact, which is in no way Satanism, although Anton LeVey (father of modern Satanism) was a Thelamite at one time. Thelema is basically a hedonistic religion that focuses on individual improvement and spiritual awareness. (Hedonism is the belief that enjoying yourself and having a genuinely fulfilling life is more important than following society's rules. Sort-of. That's an extremely simplistic explanation, but I'm trying to be kind to the stupid.) Point being, there would be no point in their trying to turn people on to Satan when they (the band) aren't Satanists.
And fear of Satan is silly. Sorry, but it's true, and I'm saying that as a spiritual person. If you really believe there are demons trying to get you, you have more problems than backwards messages in old songs from the 70s.
Comment posted by Anonymous at 7/05/2004 9:43 PM (Permalink)
u idiots. robert plant wrote that damned song in 15 minutes, so shut the hell up how the hell r u goin to throw away ZEPPELIN RECORD JUST BECAUSE U HEARD SOME CROCK ABOUT IT BEIN SATANIST wat in the..? and then u hav ppl talkin about it, that dont even kno that zeppelin was a BAND and not a PERSON and then u hav crack heads that dont even kno that the leadsingers name is jimmy paige. my suggestion u guys shud all shut up drop it and quit believen everything u read. yes subliminal messaging is real, but do u kno if zep did it on purpose, no thats not for u to decide u need to ask THEM not some guy who listend to it on a vynyl.
peaces
peaces
Comment posted by bliss at 7/09/2004 10:46 AM (Permalink)
uhh i screwed up, i meant the lead singer of led zep is robert plant
not paige, my bad..
not paige, my bad..
Comment posted by bliss at 7/09/2004 12:40 PM (Permalink)
But you know whenever beavis is like "you're a fag butthead", he's really sayin "worship satan now"
Comment posted by bliss at 7/09/2004 3:03 PM (Permalink)
Hi, my name's Evan. I have the mp3 version and I just played the whole thing backwards. I've known about the "Bustle in your hedgerow" backwards thing for a while now, but when I googled stairway to heaven, I found this place.
Yes, listening to the whole thing backwards can be scary, but I've listened to it over and over. My dad has an old record player, and I do recall him saying something about a Led Zeppelin record but I don't think he has any of their albums.
Well anyways, have any of you heard the album "How the West Was Won"? Great album. It's one of their big concerts and when I reversed Stairway, it wasn't as clear so I do beleive that they intended to have that message.
Well anyways, getting back on topic. if anyone wants to disscuss this, my AIM is Mortar131 and my email is proskater131@aol.com
And remember, hear why it is sung here, oppositioner! :p
Yes, listening to the whole thing backwards can be scary, but I've listened to it over and over. My dad has an old record player, and I do recall him saying something about a Led Zeppelin record but I don't think he has any of their albums.
Well anyways, have any of you heard the album "How the West Was Won"? Great album. It's one of their big concerts and when I reversed Stairway, it wasn't as clear so I do beleive that they intended to have that message.
Well anyways, getting back on topic. if anyone wants to disscuss this, my AIM is Mortar131 and my email is proskater131@aol.com
And remember, hear why it is sung here, oppositioner! :p
Comment posted by Eagle at 7/20/2004 5:52 PM (Permalink)
Just a few of my random thoughts on the subject. Half of you say that the backwards masking is "undeniable". I heard what sounded like "Satan" a couple of times, but most of it was just backwards English. Because you hear something, even if it is crystal clear to you, does NOT mean that is what they are saying. You're ears heard something it didn't understand and your mind tried to make it make sence. Most of us have been told about the song and it's "hidden" meaning/message so that is what we hear. If you played the song for some one who has not heard that it contains backwards messages and did not tell them what to expect might hear something completly different.
About Jimmy Page saying he is NOT a Satanist...why would he say that he wasn't unless it was the truth? There would be no reason to lie about it. This is no longer the 1700's. He does not have to worry about being burned at the stake. He would have had nothing to lose by telling the truth. Many big bands ARE self proclaimed Satanists (Marilyn Manson is the head of the Satanic church now that Levey has stepped down) and did not lose any record sells because of that so that would not have been his reason. Perhaps he really IS NOT a Satanist. Just because you heard some one say that he is does not make it so. I read a few time on this page where someone has said they KNOW one of the members of Led Zeppelin is a Satanist. May I ask: How do you know? He says he isn't but someone who does not know him says he is...Who should we believe? Repeating someone elses unfounded stories is called gossip (which is a sin:thou shalt not bare false witness against thy neighbor) so who is the Satanist?
Anyway, back to the subject of your ears decieving you: We have ALL heard the song "Bad Moon On the Rise". Alot of people thought John Fogerty was saying "There's a bathroom on the right". Yes, it does SOUND like that but I think that there no "hidden" meaning there...
"You Oughta Know" From Alanis Morissette was playing on the radio at a deli where I used to work and my boss(who is Russian)turned to me and asked "Why did he give her a cross-eyed bear"? I told him it was "cross I bare". Again just because he heard it does not mean that is what she said.
The list goes on and on...
And about the Spears lyrics: she practiclly come out and says that any way so what would be the point of hiding that.
Let me give you an example of REAL backward messages if you really want to get freaked out Slayer has a song called "Hell Awaits". If you play the fist minute of the song backwards you hear "join us" over and over again
By the way, if you are wondering about my nick name its because I am an ordained minister.
About Jimmy Page saying he is NOT a Satanist...why would he say that he wasn't unless it was the truth? There would be no reason to lie about it. This is no longer the 1700's. He does not have to worry about being burned at the stake. He would have had nothing to lose by telling the truth. Many big bands ARE self proclaimed Satanists (Marilyn Manson is the head of the Satanic church now that Levey has stepped down) and did not lose any record sells because of that so that would not have been his reason. Perhaps he really IS NOT a Satanist. Just because you heard some one say that he is does not make it so. I read a few time on this page where someone has said they KNOW one of the members of Led Zeppelin is a Satanist. May I ask: How do you know? He says he isn't but someone who does not know him says he is...Who should we believe? Repeating someone elses unfounded stories is called gossip (which is a sin:thou shalt not bare false witness against thy neighbor) so who is the Satanist?
Anyway, back to the subject of your ears decieving you: We have ALL heard the song "Bad Moon On the Rise". Alot of people thought John Fogerty was saying "There's a bathroom on the right". Yes, it does SOUND like that but I think that there no "hidden" meaning there...
"You Oughta Know" From Alanis Morissette was playing on the radio at a deli where I used to work and my boss(who is Russian)turned to me and asked "Why did he give her a cross-eyed bear"? I told him it was "cross I bare". Again just because he heard it does not mean that is what she said.
The list goes on and on...
And about the Spears lyrics: she practiclly come out and says that any way so what would be the point of hiding that.
Let me give you an example of REAL backward messages if you really want to get freaked out Slayer has a song called "Hell Awaits". If you play the fist minute of the song backwards you hear "join us" over and over again
By the way, if you are wondering about my nick name its because I am an ordained minister.
Comment posted by Preacher at 7/22/2004 1:08 AM (Permalink)
Heh, well I'm not saying that I actually think they did it intentionally, but I'm in doubt. You see, they could have very well done it on perpose because like I heard someone else say, they did make all of the words make sense when you play it forward. Right now I'm thinking it more of a coincidence then intentional, but I'm still not sure...I should have included that in my above comment. And yeah, I do admit that some people are taking this Stairway to Heaven backwards a little too far...lol. I think it pretty interesting though, but oh well.
Oh, and where it says, "Shall I loathe you now, parishoner?," sounds like he's singing, "Shall I loathe you now, oppositioner,". Just a thought.
Oh, and where it says, "Shall I loathe you now, parishoner?," sounds like he's singing, "Shall I loathe you now, oppositioner,". Just a thought.
Comment posted by Eagle at 7/22/2004 1:00 PM (Permalink)
Check this out:
https://www.reversespeech.com/music_reversals.htm
They have some stuff on stairway at the bottom, but it's nothing fancy. But the site does have some interesting stuff, you should take a look.
https://www.reversespeech.com/music_reversals.htm
They have some stuff on stairway at the bottom, but it's nothing fancy. But the site does have some interesting stuff, you should take a look.
Comment posted by Eagle at 8/03/2004 3:14 PM (Permalink)
It's so easy to fool people.
Of course the "secret message" can only be heard on vinyl, because only a minority of people owns a record player nowadays, and a really small minority of THAT MINORITY knows how to/takes the trouble to/wants to waste time to make the turntable spin backwards.
My point is that this guy here who tells us that it can be heard on vinyl backwards could maybe record the "secret message" to his computer from the vinyl, put a small part of it on the Internet (to avoid copyright problems) and let us make our own decisions about what we hear (or want to hear).
Of course the "secret message" can only be heard on vinyl, because only a minority of people owns a record player nowadays, and a really small minority of THAT MINORITY knows how to/takes the trouble to/wants to waste time to make the turntable spin backwards.
My point is that this guy here who tells us that it can be heard on vinyl backwards could maybe record the "secret message" to his computer from the vinyl, put a small part of it on the Internet (to avoid copyright problems) and let us make our own decisions about what we hear (or want to hear).
Comment posted by hupkap at 8/04/2004 1:24 PM (Permalink)
READ THIS COMMENT
Well, all i have to say is that you all must be insane. No Joke! mentally unwell. "Satan" does not make ceratain peoples' speach say satanic messages when played backwards. THIS IS INSANE!!!! If you have the backwards lyrics written in front of you, then maybe your brain is forced to to pick up these warped and retarded phrases. I think this is a great deffinition for "OBSESSION" or maybe even something more along the lines of "RETARDED." If anyone wants me to make up stupid and untrue shit and post that on the interent I can do that, but i can only hope that internet losers that have never had a girlfriend in their lives dont obsess over it.
Well, all i have to say is that you all must be insane. No Joke! mentally unwell. "Satan" does not make ceratain peoples' speach say satanic messages when played backwards. THIS IS INSANE!!!! If you have the backwards lyrics written in front of you, then maybe your brain is forced to to pick up these warped and retarded phrases. I think this is a great deffinition for "OBSESSION" or maybe even something more along the lines of "RETARDED." If anyone wants me to make up stupid and untrue shit and post that on the interent I can do that, but i can only hope that internet losers that have never had a girlfriend in their lives dont obsess over it.
Comment posted by joesinople at 8/11/2004 3:22 PM (Permalink)
To all of you who doubt, including the so-called preacher....
We were made in God's image... Do you think God understands it backward??? He is God you know... he knows everything.... So is it possible for us to know, even subliminally? The answer is an emphatic YES.
The bible says to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. Has Led Zepplin done that? Brittney Spears? or any of the others?
To the preacher I say this:
There are wolves dressed in sheeps clothing that have led astray God's people. I'm not saying you are one of them, but your comments make me wonder who's side you are really on.
If a person listens to those songs backwards and something inside them knows or believes that it's satanic, it's satanic. If you are a born again christian and you believe it's satanic or know that it is, it's because the Holy Spirit of God bears witness with your spirit. It's a gift of the Holy Spirit. It's called discernment. If you have it, use it, if you don't, learn about it from the bible.
There is hope-- to the person way up on top that said that there is no hope.
Jesus said "my children die for lack of knowledge".
Jesus is the ONLY way to everlasting life in heaven.
those who seek shall find, those who ask it shall be given to him, those who knock the door shall open for him....
fear not.....
thank you Jeff for your wonderful work, you ARE making a difference.
We were made in God's image... Do you think God understands it backward??? He is God you know... he knows everything.... So is it possible for us to know, even subliminally? The answer is an emphatic YES.
The bible says to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. Has Led Zepplin done that? Brittney Spears? or any of the others?
To the preacher I say this:
There are wolves dressed in sheeps clothing that have led astray God's people. I'm not saying you are one of them, but your comments make me wonder who's side you are really on.
If a person listens to those songs backwards and something inside them knows or believes that it's satanic, it's satanic. If you are a born again christian and you believe it's satanic or know that it is, it's because the Holy Spirit of God bears witness with your spirit. It's a gift of the Holy Spirit. It's called discernment. If you have it, use it, if you don't, learn about it from the bible.
There is hope-- to the person way up on top that said that there is no hope.
Jesus said "my children die for lack of knowledge".
Jesus is the ONLY way to everlasting life in heaven.
those who seek shall find, those who ask it shall be given to him, those who knock the door shall open for him....
fear not.....
thank you Jeff for your wonderful work, you ARE making a difference.
Comment posted by faithfulservant at 8/15/2004 2:48 AM (Permalink)
I forgot something to preacher up there....
by the way, you say why would Robert Plant be dishonest about whether or not he is a satanist? I'll tell you why he would lie.... Satan is a liar, and the father of lies that's why he would lie.
ever hear of a pint of poison in a lake of truth? It's still poisonous.... no matter how much you water it down.
What kind of preacher are you? you never did say what God you worship!!!
by the way, you say why would Robert Plant be dishonest about whether or not he is a satanist? I'll tell you why he would lie.... Satan is a liar, and the father of lies that's why he would lie.
ever hear of a pint of poison in a lake of truth? It's still poisonous.... no matter how much you water it down.
What kind of preacher are you? you never did say what God you worship!!!
Comment posted by faithfulservant at 8/15/2004 3:09 AM (Permalink)
I think it may have been on purpose with the one clue of the forward song not making TOO much sence. I reversed the whole song and it did sound very clear. So I wasn't really convinced. I wanted to reverse a record but the needle broke. Well now I'm rambling. I'm really not sure what to beleive, currently. Also, to the people saying all the stuff about throwing away all of their Led Zeppelin things, shut the hell up. Because of one possible message in the greatest song ever, by the greatest band ever, you shouldn't get ride of it all. One should not be so eaisly decived by what others say. And that all I can think of...
Comment posted by EssenSieDasHuhn at 8/16/2004 11:17 AM (Permalink)
I'm just curious, has anyone played the exorcist backwards? maybe it has a message about God :)
Cheers
Cheers
Comment posted by Rackolamb at 8/23/2004 10:24 PM (Permalink)
oh my gosh.....very very very very very creepy....i tried it as well on audacity wiht the real verision of stairway to heaven from the album early days and ...oh man its just creepy..i wonder if they did tat on purpose..i hope not well is til love the song,....
Comment posted by tooiightdk at 8/30/2004 10:38 PM (Permalink)
First of all, either God is a completel failure or does not exist. Why? The greatest thing He created was us, or so you'd all like to think, and that's just embarrassing. Take a look at the world, the ignorance, and hell, the posts in this forum. If God is responsible for this, hail Satan. God is all powerful. God would not want evil to exist. Evil exists. Simple logic, it's all bullshit. Religion saves no one; it starts WARS.
Wonder why people heard voices while talking to a burning bush? THEY WERE ON DRUGS! AND PEOPLE WERE TWICE AS DUMB 2000 YEARS AGO AS THEY ARE NOW!
Everyone believes what they want to believe. People fear nonexistence. People are too stupid to explain everything. The result is religions. The same goes for listening to music backwards. You can read the lyrics a person has come up with for the "backwards messages" while listening to the song, and they will seem to make sense. Listen to a completely different set of lyrics, and they could just as easily make sense. Even something as simple as "Play backwards. Hear words sung" is being argued as something else. Even foward lyrics can be confused with other things. I used to think the song "Get your freak on" was "Get your freaky ho". I was sad when I learned the truth. Basically you're all hearing a sound similiar to "Satan" and filling in the words around it.
All of this, and the previous posts, proves you're idiots, and yes, that includes me. I'm just self aware.
Wonder why people heard voices while talking to a burning bush? THEY WERE ON DRUGS! AND PEOPLE WERE TWICE AS DUMB 2000 YEARS AGO AS THEY ARE NOW!
Everyone believes what they want to believe. People fear nonexistence. People are too stupid to explain everything. The result is religions. The same goes for listening to music backwards. You can read the lyrics a person has come up with for the "backwards messages" while listening to the song, and they will seem to make sense. Listen to a completely different set of lyrics, and they could just as easily make sense. Even something as simple as "Play backwards. Hear words sung" is being argued as something else. Even foward lyrics can be confused with other things. I used to think the song "Get your freak on" was "Get your freaky ho". I was sad when I learned the truth. Basically you're all hearing a sound similiar to "Satan" and filling in the words around it.
All of this, and the previous posts, proves you're idiots, and yes, that includes me. I'm just self aware.
Comment posted by getalife at 9/04/2004 2:46 PM (Permalink)
oka, well this is waht i ahve to say about this
i heard the short clip and now i heard the full clip backwards, i used traktor version 1, and i wasnt really freaked out at all.. although i found it really interesting
im a christian, i was sort of offended but i dont kno why i ddint freak me out the first place
but to the earlier post, someone said, what if hearing the song forwards is about walking UP the stairs to heaven, but if u hear it reverse, ur actualy walkign DOWN the stairs away from heaven? like going up is to hear the song forwards, and hearing the song backwards is to go down the stairs? that kinda made me think, im not agreeing with that idea, but it kinda makes you think twice about this whole idea
also, i heard the live version of this song, and played it backwards, and yeha, u can stil hear the lyrics, not as much as clear as the studio cut orginal version of it tho, but if the satanic mesages are stil heard backwards in the live version, than this is NOT a coincidence by Led Zepplein, kuz they mustve done it on purpose, and i dont think a normal human can come up with lyrics and write a santanic message backwards at the same time
but have you guys ever thought, what does *reverse function* symbolize? i dont know, what *playign backwards* symbolizes, not neccesarily playing a song backwards, but that function it self
and if u guys are really questioning this often, i would highly encourage someone to go up to one of the band members, or the person who wrote the lyrics to this song personally and ask him, or them, waht they have to say about how they wrote this song
hah good luck doing that
PS: is LEd Zeppelin still touring?
i heard the short clip and now i heard the full clip backwards, i used traktor version 1, and i wasnt really freaked out at all.. although i found it really interesting
im a christian, i was sort of offended but i dont kno why i ddint freak me out the first place
but to the earlier post, someone said, what if hearing the song forwards is about walking UP the stairs to heaven, but if u hear it reverse, ur actualy walkign DOWN the stairs away from heaven? like going up is to hear the song forwards, and hearing the song backwards is to go down the stairs? that kinda made me think, im not agreeing with that idea, but it kinda makes you think twice about this whole idea
also, i heard the live version of this song, and played it backwards, and yeha, u can stil hear the lyrics, not as much as clear as the studio cut orginal version of it tho, but if the satanic mesages are stil heard backwards in the live version, than this is NOT a coincidence by Led Zepplein, kuz they mustve done it on purpose, and i dont think a normal human can come up with lyrics and write a santanic message backwards at the same time
but have you guys ever thought, what does *reverse function* symbolize? i dont know, what *playign backwards* symbolizes, not neccesarily playing a song backwards, but that function it self
and if u guys are really questioning this often, i would highly encourage someone to go up to one of the band members, or the person who wrote the lyrics to this song personally and ask him, or them, waht they have to say about how they wrote this song
hah good luck doing that
PS: is LEd Zeppelin still touring?
Comment posted by kpxmikey89 at 9/04/2004 3:22 PM (Permalink)
RoooOOoOOoOoOOoOoOOfl
I have an opinion on this matter, but im not going to share it with any of you... whoever moderates this should ban some of the total and utter morons from posting comments.
Anyway i quickly made this account so i could laugh at all of u, except the guy who did this.
He had a nice idea, and im sure his intentions were good, i liked hearing all the backmasking, esp the plainly obvious one by Pink Floyd, and the funny as hell Britney Spears one.
The preacher guy garnered a little bit of my respect tho.
Check his main detractor:
"What kind of preacher are you? you never did say what God you worship!!!"
- Comment posted by faithfulservant at 8/15/2004
Interesting, interesting indeed, I was brought up to believe there is only 1 god, how many do u believe in heretic?!?!?!
HAHAHAHHA
anyway, in all likely hood I'll never be coming here again, so...
1) thx to the guy who did the flash piece it was interesting
2) and thx to the ppl who made me laugh
3) dont bother replying to this post
I have an opinion on this matter, but im not going to share it with any of you... whoever moderates this should ban some of the total and utter morons from posting comments.
Anyway i quickly made this account so i could laugh at all of u, except the guy who did this.
He had a nice idea, and im sure his intentions were good, i liked hearing all the backmasking, esp the plainly obvious one by Pink Floyd, and the funny as hell Britney Spears one.
The preacher guy garnered a little bit of my respect tho.
Check his main detractor:
"What kind of preacher are you? you never did say what God you worship!!!"
- Comment posted by faithfulservant at 8/15/2004
Interesting, interesting indeed, I was brought up to believe there is only 1 god, how many do u believe in heretic?!?!?!
HAHAHAHHA
anyway, in all likely hood I'll never be coming here again, so...
1) thx to the guy who did the flash piece it was interesting
2) and thx to the ppl who made me laugh
3) dont bother replying to this post
Comment posted by RectalProlapse at 9/19/2004 11:57 AM (Permalink)
Apparently Led Zep bought a tool shed where a satanist wrote a satanic poem, so maybe that shed part in the backwards lyrics is refering to the shed they bought, this could be evidence that it was intentional. Of corse I am basing this on rumor, I don't know if any of that was true, so if you are interested see if you can find out more about their shed.
Comment posted by Thamik at 9/22/2004 10:54 PM (Permalink)
I originally posted the lyrics of the entire reversed song above on my website (www.members.rogers.com/zepstair/index2.html)
As most of you, my interest was piqued by J Milner's flash clip and the surprising clarity of the "Here's to my sweet satan" verse.. I figured that if someone could encode one phrase so obviously and clearly, then perhaps there was more backwards messages that people just were not listening hard enough for, so my best mate and I downloaded as many versions of stairway to heaven as could be found (the cd version, the live version, the live version from the "song remains the same", hell even the Pat Boone cover of it), I converted these to wav format and reversed them in sound recorder, then reconverted them back to mp3 and used Media Players playback speed controls to listen to the song over and over in reverse slow motion.. over the course of 2 or 3 weeks my friend and I obsessed over this, trying to decipher every syllable, even destroying both of our father's copies of the original LP by playing them backwards, finding logical meaning arise from seemingly random sounds.
It is my opinion that the backwards version makes as much sense, if not more, than the regularly played forwards version. I'm convinced that this was done intentionally. I read in a Led Zepplin biography that while putting stairway to heaven together, Jimmy Page would spend countless hours alone in the recording studio, working with sound clips a few seconds long and going over and over them.. To me it is obvious that he was trying to perfect his pronunciation of the lyrics for optimal backwards impact, as I broke the entire song into 2 line clips for the purpose of analysis, finding it was much easier to deal with in short segments. I'm sure this was done intentionally, if not for 'shits and giggles' as its been put, then certainly to raise the bar on the creation of music. Of course, if no one ever found it, it would be kind of sad that Page went through all that work, so he left little clues in the forwards lyrics. (If you listen very hard the tune will come to you at last, There are two paths you can go by, sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiven, there's still time to change the road you're on (reverse the song)) I find it especially intriguing that the actual title of the song (Stairway to Heaven) when pronounced as Page sings it, turns into "Play backwards, hear words" when reversed by itself. Try it for yourself, its quite creepy.
Many people have claimed that this was inspired by certain passages of a celtic poem known as "The White Goddess", though if you try to find this, you will more than likely turn up only Robert Grave's works. Interestinly enough, Robert Graves states that the true test of any poet is his depiction of the White Goddess, an archetypal character believed to represent the "sacred feminine" that is, women, the moon. In fact, I believe that all the references in the backwards lyrics to "satan" are indeed intended to be symbollic of the sacred feminine. Before the widespread acceptance of Monotheistic faiths, Pagans worshipped this deity, and with the rise of the church, she was demonized and made evil, and males were decidedly the superior gender, (for the bible states that God made man first and woman was but an inferior offshoot of him) I believe this to be in accordance with the whole nature of the backwards song, which in my opionion, loosely states that those who truely seek the truth will realize that (in a nutshell) Christianity and its ilk are bullshit, and thusly, one turns back to their roots of worshipping the sacred feminine. This is just one theory in a slew of ideas that I've considered, but I felt I needed to write this as I've seen the spread of these lyrics which Matt and I deciphered, which hitherto have never been spoken by the public, and thusly, the misinterpretation of them. People are too apt to say "omggg its satan!!!" without hearing the true meaning of the song.
There is no doubt in my mind that further analysis and translation of these lyrics are needed, and in some cases they seem to be indecipherable, however, I'm surprised there is as much clarity as there is in these lyrics, it means something BOTH WAYS, which is a feat in and of itself. In our translation of this, we were certain of the references to Thoth and Maat near the end, which holds specific meaning with those who are aware of the nature of these egyptian Gods. Thoth was the God of wisdom, law and civilization who supposedly hid his secret "books" of knowledge all over the world, I naturally assume that they are not actually books, but symbollic of hidden secrets, arcane knowledge which is now lost to the general public, if it were ever common knowledge in the first place! I'm not saying that this is one of the books of Thoth, that is silly, but the obvious correlation between the hidden books and the backwards song is amusing to one who has spent many years searching for the obscure secrets of humanity. The second Egyptian God, Maat, was the goddess of truth and perfection, but what really stands out here, to those familiar with the album unofficially dubbed "the 4 signs", is the fact that one symbol is a feather with a circle around it. Why is this significant? Because that very feather used is the egyptian hieroglyph pertaining to Maat, truth. In actuality, that symbol is called "The feather of Maat". Another line in the backwards lyrics specifically states "If we lose feather, say you'll save me." I believe this is a double entendre, referring to the phrase "lose feather", eg, lose hope, fail, become disheartened. However in this context it could actually also mean, "If we lose truth, say you'll save me." Maat was also associated with the egyptian afterlife, which is consistent with the nature of the song, front and back. In the Hall of Judgement, where a soul was deemed worthy to live forever, or to be eaten by the vile soul consumer Ammit, the subjects soul was placed on a scale, on the other side of which was placed the feather of maat. If they were equal, the subject was allowed to progress into the duat. All this is standard occult knowledge.
The song is linked the Aliester Crowley by the well known sign of "Zoso", which he originally and Page eventually adopted as his own. The best explanation I've seen of this symbol is a representation of the star sign capricorn, ruled by saturn. Capricorns ruled by saturn are easily the most wild, eccentric people there are, Page is one, Crowley was one, and I am one. Aliester Crowley is one of the most well known occultists of all time, and, as anyone who has seen The Book Of The Law would agree, a master of manipulation of words and phrases to have multiple and secret meanings.. I think the backwards lyrics to stairway to heaven are a natural expression of this. One line mentions a Reve. It is my assertion that this is the very Reve of "Chaucer's Tales" another document which undoubtedly contains secret knowledge, which I have yet to decipher.
On a closing note, I've heard so much propogation of this "toolshed" lyric that I feel I need to note here the obvious real meaning. People WANT to hear toolshed because so many sites that have only that one verse have told them that is what is being said. I can vouch that I've slowed it down and listened to it hundreds of times for clarification, and it definitely says "All the evil fools they", not "There was a little toolshed." Grammatically, and in light of the rest of the verse, this makes perfect sense. Observe: The verse leading up to this verse states loosely, that you can pray, and coincidence may cause your prays to be "answered" but it will only seem this way because you are so desperate for a God that you are "clothed in agony and lost at a height." So, as Paige puts it, "Heres to my sweet satan.", almost giving a toast to that which has been demonized by the followers of the empty god of the christians, he states that this god's "little path" or perhaps "middle path" would make him sad, because his only power comes from faith. To one who does not believe, God holds no power. "He'll give those with him 666" Shows that the "satan", in whatever form Paige interprets this symbol of evil, will have a manifest effect on his followers, rather than an empty faith which can never be proven, the beast, satan, or whoever this is intended to be, will have some REAL effect on those that follow him, they will be a party to something REAL, rather than a blind faith. This will cause them to follow him, even though their peers, the christians, will think them "evil" for it, but they will follow, disregarding the fact that he has "made them suffer sadly", perhaps by his existence alone hell was deemed a natural consequence, and the christians spread this fact and used to control the people who followed them, to make them suffer the lack of pleasures which has been identified with him.
All this may seem utter bullshit to you, and I welcome contribution or criticism. If you have a heart that seeks enlightenment and truth, my email is tenreh@hotmail.com and you are welcome to contact me. If you have no belief in this, or can only take words literally, please refrain, forget you ever read this, and move on with your life. Thank you for your time.
As most of you, my interest was piqued by J Milner's flash clip and the surprising clarity of the "Here's to my sweet satan" verse.. I figured that if someone could encode one phrase so obviously and clearly, then perhaps there was more backwards messages that people just were not listening hard enough for, so my best mate and I downloaded as many versions of stairway to heaven as could be found (the cd version, the live version, the live version from the "song remains the same", hell even the Pat Boone cover of it), I converted these to wav format and reversed them in sound recorder, then reconverted them back to mp3 and used Media Players playback speed controls to listen to the song over and over in reverse slow motion.. over the course of 2 or 3 weeks my friend and I obsessed over this, trying to decipher every syllable, even destroying both of our father's copies of the original LP by playing them backwards, finding logical meaning arise from seemingly random sounds.
It is my opinion that the backwards version makes as much sense, if not more, than the regularly played forwards version. I'm convinced that this was done intentionally. I read in a Led Zepplin biography that while putting stairway to heaven together, Jimmy Page would spend countless hours alone in the recording studio, working with sound clips a few seconds long and going over and over them.. To me it is obvious that he was trying to perfect his pronunciation of the lyrics for optimal backwards impact, as I broke the entire song into 2 line clips for the purpose of analysis, finding it was much easier to deal with in short segments. I'm sure this was done intentionally, if not for 'shits and giggles' as its been put, then certainly to raise the bar on the creation of music. Of course, if no one ever found it, it would be kind of sad that Page went through all that work, so he left little clues in the forwards lyrics. (If you listen very hard the tune will come to you at last, There are two paths you can go by, sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiven, there's still time to change the road you're on (reverse the song)) I find it especially intriguing that the actual title of the song (Stairway to Heaven) when pronounced as Page sings it, turns into "Play backwards, hear words" when reversed by itself. Try it for yourself, its quite creepy.
Many people have claimed that this was inspired by certain passages of a celtic poem known as "The White Goddess", though if you try to find this, you will more than likely turn up only Robert Grave's works. Interestinly enough, Robert Graves states that the true test of any poet is his depiction of the White Goddess, an archetypal character believed to represent the "sacred feminine" that is, women, the moon. In fact, I believe that all the references in the backwards lyrics to "satan" are indeed intended to be symbollic of the sacred feminine. Before the widespread acceptance of Monotheistic faiths, Pagans worshipped this deity, and with the rise of the church, she was demonized and made evil, and males were decidedly the superior gender, (for the bible states that God made man first and woman was but an inferior offshoot of him) I believe this to be in accordance with the whole nature of the backwards song, which in my opionion, loosely states that those who truely seek the truth will realize that (in a nutshell) Christianity and its ilk are bullshit, and thusly, one turns back to their roots of worshipping the sacred feminine. This is just one theory in a slew of ideas that I've considered, but I felt I needed to write this as I've seen the spread of these lyrics which Matt and I deciphered, which hitherto have never been spoken by the public, and thusly, the misinterpretation of them. People are too apt to say "omggg its satan!!!" without hearing the true meaning of the song.
There is no doubt in my mind that further analysis and translation of these lyrics are needed, and in some cases they seem to be indecipherable, however, I'm surprised there is as much clarity as there is in these lyrics, it means something BOTH WAYS, which is a feat in and of itself. In our translation of this, we were certain of the references to Thoth and Maat near the end, which holds specific meaning with those who are aware of the nature of these egyptian Gods. Thoth was the God of wisdom, law and civilization who supposedly hid his secret "books" of knowledge all over the world, I naturally assume that they are not actually books, but symbollic of hidden secrets, arcane knowledge which is now lost to the general public, if it were ever common knowledge in the first place! I'm not saying that this is one of the books of Thoth, that is silly, but the obvious correlation between the hidden books and the backwards song is amusing to one who has spent many years searching for the obscure secrets of humanity. The second Egyptian God, Maat, was the goddess of truth and perfection, but what really stands out here, to those familiar with the album unofficially dubbed "the 4 signs", is the fact that one symbol is a feather with a circle around it. Why is this significant? Because that very feather used is the egyptian hieroglyph pertaining to Maat, truth. In actuality, that symbol is called "The feather of Maat". Another line in the backwards lyrics specifically states "If we lose feather, say you'll save me." I believe this is a double entendre, referring to the phrase "lose feather", eg, lose hope, fail, become disheartened. However in this context it could actually also mean, "If we lose truth, say you'll save me." Maat was also associated with the egyptian afterlife, which is consistent with the nature of the song, front and back. In the Hall of Judgement, where a soul was deemed worthy to live forever, or to be eaten by the vile soul consumer Ammit, the subjects soul was placed on a scale, on the other side of which was placed the feather of maat. If they were equal, the subject was allowed to progress into the duat. All this is standard occult knowledge.
The song is linked the Aliester Crowley by the well known sign of "Zoso", which he originally and Page eventually adopted as his own. The best explanation I've seen of this symbol is a representation of the star sign capricorn, ruled by saturn. Capricorns ruled by saturn are easily the most wild, eccentric people there are, Page is one, Crowley was one, and I am one. Aliester Crowley is one of the most well known occultists of all time, and, as anyone who has seen The Book Of The Law would agree, a master of manipulation of words and phrases to have multiple and secret meanings.. I think the backwards lyrics to stairway to heaven are a natural expression of this. One line mentions a Reve. It is my assertion that this is the very Reve of "Chaucer's Tales" another document which undoubtedly contains secret knowledge, which I have yet to decipher.
On a closing note, I've heard so much propogation of this "toolshed" lyric that I feel I need to note here the obvious real meaning. People WANT to hear toolshed because so many sites that have only that one verse have told them that is what is being said. I can vouch that I've slowed it down and listened to it hundreds of times for clarification, and it definitely says "All the evil fools they", not "There was a little toolshed." Grammatically, and in light of the rest of the verse, this makes perfect sense. Observe: The verse leading up to this verse states loosely, that you can pray, and coincidence may cause your prays to be "answered" but it will only seem this way because you are so desperate for a God that you are "clothed in agony and lost at a height." So, as Paige puts it, "Heres to my sweet satan.", almost giving a toast to that which has been demonized by the followers of the empty god of the christians, he states that this god's "little path" or perhaps "middle path" would make him sad, because his only power comes from faith. To one who does not believe, God holds no power. "He'll give those with him 666" Shows that the "satan", in whatever form Paige interprets this symbol of evil, will have a manifest effect on his followers, rather than an empty faith which can never be proven, the beast, satan, or whoever this is intended to be, will have some REAL effect on those that follow him, they will be a party to something REAL, rather than a blind faith. This will cause them to follow him, even though their peers, the christians, will think them "evil" for it, but they will follow, disregarding the fact that he has "made them suffer sadly", perhaps by his existence alone hell was deemed a natural consequence, and the christians spread this fact and used to control the people who followed them, to make them suffer the lack of pleasures which has been identified with him.
All this may seem utter bullshit to you, and I welcome contribution or criticism. If you have a heart that seeks enlightenment and truth, my email is tenreh@hotmail.com and you are welcome to contact me. If you have no belief in this, or can only take words literally, please refrain, forget you ever read this, and move on with your life. Thank you for your time.
Comment posted by Dazed at 9/24/2004 7:00 AM (Permalink)
Hey people, I've read a ton of your comments about how you're so disgusted by the evil message of satan here, however, seeing as there IS no satan, you should be disgusted with your own ignorance. The word satan, and the idea behind it, was derived from the egyptian words "set" and "an", set being the brother of osiris, he was considered evil because he was envious of osiris, and tricked him, and then he cut osiris into 14 pieces and scattered them around the earth. "an" means dog, and was closely associated with the star sirius (set's realm) just as osiris is asociated with the constellation of orion. Now, Set was a God, and when the catholic church came into power, they set about branding the Gods and followers of all other religions as evil. There never was a real "satan" in catholicism, however there was a Lucifer. Lucifer was alleged to be an angel who was kicked out of heaven. However.. He never did go to "Hell" nor does Hell exist, Hell was contrived as a tool of controlling the masses, as incentive for followers of the church to devoutly follow its practices. It was also used to scare other cultures into converting to a monothiestic faith. And if they didn't, the church just killed them. :P But my point is that, even if we humour the morons who take the bible literally, Lucifer was the ruler of EARTH. God cast him out of heaven to dwell forever in the underworld. The world under heaven. When Jesus is tempted in the desert, lucifer takes him up to a high point and they are looking down over all the kingdoms of the world, and Jesus is told that all this will be his to rule, if only he should worship Lucifer.. and its made very clear that it is indeed Lucifer's to give.
Anyway, the bible is all about symbolism. You can't actually believe there's a little pointy tailed devil with a pitchfork dancing around in lava trading souls for fast cars and singing careers.. That's why I hate Christians. They can't think for themselves. Everything in the bible, and indeed in backwards stairway to heaven is SYMBOLIC. Use your minds people.
~Tenreh
https://members.rogers.com/zepstair
Anyway, the bible is all about symbolism. You can't actually believe there's a little pointy tailed devil with a pitchfork dancing around in lava trading souls for fast cars and singing careers.. That's why I hate Christians. They can't think for themselves. Everything in the bible, and indeed in backwards stairway to heaven is SYMBOLIC. Use your minds people.
~Tenreh
https://members.rogers.com/zepstair
Comment posted by Dazed at 9/24/2004 7:16 AM (Permalink)
i'll start out by saying i reallize that no one except for someone hwo has nothitng to do in the middle of a hurricane (<< me) has actually read down this far.
i am atheist, but very open to listening to everyone's beliefs. i think because of this perspective (as an atheist) that i have a more open mind towards things like this.
what i want to know is, Led Zepplin has possible satanic messages in their song(s)....SO WAHT? nowadays you see outright, straightforward messages against go all the time. what if Led Zepplin wrote this song the other way around? so that waht 99% of what everyone heard was a "satanic message"? would everyone freak out like they are doing in this post?..probably not, it would just be another song on another cd.
personally i think it is a very cool twist onto the song. i have it forwards and backwards on the same cd. i just see it as another song.
for those of you who still are "freaked out" or whatever to the point of throwing away your records...dotn burn them, dont throw them out, talk to me, i will gladly take them, pay for them, whatever.
AIM: Fro mUChacho
E-mail: live2sk8nguitar@hotmail.com
i am atheist, but very open to listening to everyone's beliefs. i think because of this perspective (as an atheist) that i have a more open mind towards things like this.
what i want to know is, Led Zepplin has possible satanic messages in their song(s)....SO WAHT? nowadays you see outright, straightforward messages against go all the time. what if Led Zepplin wrote this song the other way around? so that waht 99% of what everyone heard was a "satanic message"? would everyone freak out like they are doing in this post?..probably not, it would just be another song on another cd.
personally i think it is a very cool twist onto the song. i have it forwards and backwards on the same cd. i just see it as another song.
for those of you who still are "freaked out" or whatever to the point of throwing away your records...dotn burn them, dont throw them out, talk to me, i will gladly take them, pay for them, whatever.
AIM: Fro mUChacho
E-mail: live2sk8nguitar@hotmail.com
Comment posted by angelofatheism at 9/28/2004 6:51 AM (Permalink)
This is another song from1971 that deals with the Charles Manson murders. It is written about Susan Aktins, who stabbed Sharon Tate to death in August 1969. Manson taught his followers that to kill was to give live. She was looking for her stairway to heaven. The Manson bunch used to hang out a place called the Spiral Staircase. The song is about a lady (Susan). The song talks about all that glitters is gold. Charlie told the their was a city of gold beneath Death Valley. The song says there's a sign on the wall. This is the words that Susan wrote in Sharon's blood. The song says the words have two meanings. When Susan wrote the sign in blood she was trying to throw the police off as she was trying to blame black Americans for the crime. Charlie was into air, trees, water, animals. ATWA. He has a website named ATWA.com The song BIRD (animal) sits by the brook (water). Sometimes all of our thoughts misgiven. Killing is migiven, that's for sure. And it's whispered that soon. All the rockstars knew Manson, a wannabe rockstar, was behind the killing before the police knew. The piper will lead us to reason. Manson is been called the pied piper, if you've read book on him you'd see this and only he knows the real reason behind the reason for the murders. And it makes me wonder. This is the singer, Plant wondering aloud, why the murders occurred? There are two paths you can go on. The Manson bunch were facing the death penalty and offered a deal. Tell us what you know and get life in prison or else we seek the death penalty. Your head is humming and it won't go because you don't know. The piper calling you to join him. Susan didn't even know why she killed these people and Charlie was asking her to shut up since she was talking to much. Dear lady...Again it's Plant talking aloud in song. When all is one and one is all. The Manson believed everything one is one and one is all. Check out Charlie songs, he sings about this in 1970 before this song was recorded. Going to California is also on this album. Listen to that song and it's also written about these murders. It referrs to the mountains and canyons shaking. Sharon lived in a canyon and these murders shook up California. The sea was red and the shy grey. Sharon's blood and the darkness these murders caused. The song opens with then singing about meeting a girl who drank all his booze and smoked all his stuff. Charlie was connected with famous rockstars and he and the Manson girls were dealing drugs and have sex with the rock n' rollers. They zep boyz were heavy into drugs and I bet they met Charlie and some of the girls back in the day. There is also a hidden Santanic meesage on Stairway to Heaven, not a coincident since Manson was called Satan, as well as Jesus Christ.
Found this on a diferent blog.
Found this on a diferent blog.
Comment posted by tHe OnE at 10/02/2004 12:01 PM (Permalink)
take it from someone who took a college psychology class: IT'S ALL IN YOUR MINDS. if you were to listen to the entire staiway to heaven backwards, you would only be able to "make out" a couple words, MAYBE phrases. but since someone posted the "lyrics" for backwards stairway, your minds have been contaminated. you see, the brain was built to make connections. because you're seen the supposed lyrics, your brain tries to connect those lyrics with backwards stairway.
i still don't know why people are freaking out, because even these supposed lyrics don't make sense. i can make sense of 90% of stairway, but these "lyrics" someone posted just don't make any damn sense. add a dash of rumors (such as led zeppeling buying a tool shed) and you think they have significance. led zeppelin could not have written backwards lyrics too, because they would have to write 8 minutes of lyrics for the song forwards, then by trial and error, replace and fix lyrics so that it makes sense backwards too (which it does not make sense backwards).
i have a record player, but i'm not about to ruin a perfectly good led zep vinyl by playing it backwards because some anonymous person comes on a message board saying that you can only hear it correctly on one form of media. playing it backwards digs groves, and i like to take care of my stuff.
i still don't know why people are freaking out, because even these supposed lyrics don't make sense. i can make sense of 90% of stairway, but these "lyrics" someone posted just don't make any damn sense. add a dash of rumors (such as led zeppeling buying a tool shed) and you think they have significance. led zeppelin could not have written backwards lyrics too, because they would have to write 8 minutes of lyrics for the song forwards, then by trial and error, replace and fix lyrics so that it makes sense backwards too (which it does not make sense backwards).
i have a record player, but i'm not about to ruin a perfectly good led zep vinyl by playing it backwards because some anonymous person comes on a message board saying that you can only hear it correctly on one form of media. playing it backwards digs groves, and i like to take care of my stuff.
Comment posted by amh1010 at 10/05/2004 3:54 PM (Permalink)
Dear faithfulservant,
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Thank you
Can I have your email please. I would like to discuss with you something in private. Thank you. My email is ryan_manchester@yahoo.com
Thank you
Comment posted by Rocky Soeharyo at 10/07/2004 8:13 AM (Permalink)
Hey, I just can't see why everyone's so upset about this. Stairway To Heaven is one of the greatest songs ever made, so what if there is a "satanic message" hidden in it? I mean, it's just a song! Personally, I see this as a funny thing, nothing to be taken too seriously. I don't understand why everyone's all "Oh, this is so creepy, I'll never listen to Led Zeppelin again, 'cause they worshipped Satan". Damn it, I didn't even think people so religious even existed any more! This is like something from the Middle Ages... why don't we all go hunt witches too?
Seriously, if all you people think Stairway to Heaven backwards is creepy - have you ever listened to black metal? There you have satanic messages. And I don't believe in them either. I just hope nobody accuses me for being obsessed by Satan just because I happen to like Mayhem.
I just wonder who first came up with the idea? This is really interesting.
Finally, if my English is bad - excuse me, I'm Swedish and fourteen years old, so I might have used poor grammar and spelling, but I think my message will be clear anyway.
Seriously, if all you people think Stairway to Heaven backwards is creepy - have you ever listened to black metal? There you have satanic messages. And I don't believe in them either. I just hope nobody accuses me for being obsessed by Satan just because I happen to like Mayhem.
I just wonder who first came up with the idea? This is really interesting.
Finally, if my English is bad - excuse me, I'm Swedish and fourteen years old, so I might have used poor grammar and spelling, but I think my message will be clear anyway.
Comment posted by Sketchy at 10/14/2004 6:15 PM (Permalink)
I have a program that lets u reverse tracks and i reversed the song and amazingly its true. The porblem is i dont know how to post the mp3. if someone would help me do that, everyone could hear the full song so post it if u know how
Comment posted by lotsohops at 10/16/2004 1:52 PM (Permalink)
you can just convert the mp3 to wav and play it in the program "sound recorder" that comes with windows computers.
to convert an mp3 to wav, download dbpoweramp (dbpoweramp.com). then download the proper codecs from the site (if needed). it's free, by the way.
to convert an mp3 to wav, download dbpoweramp (dbpoweramp.com). then download the proper codecs from the site (if needed). it's free, by the way.
Comment posted by amh1010 at 10/24/2004 7:34 PM (Permalink)
Thank you for this song and by the way i don't believe this song is writen FOR satan i think it's written BY satan. It can't be that a person sing for words and when you reverse it the tekst is so clear. i tryed it when i sing the text and reverse it i can't hear anything of satan an when i sing the reversed tekst i hear nothing about the staiways to heaven song... hard to be coincedence???
Comment posted by satanic at 11/01/2004 12:49 AM (Permalink)
when you play Led Zeppelin's Stair Way To Heaven beckawrds you hear evil messages but i assure you that its no BS its true. Sure, i was skeptical too the first time i hear it. so do what i did. Buy an old record player at a garage sale or radio shack and a copy of Led Zeppelin's Stair Way To Heaven. Put the record player in neutral and manually turn it backwards. It might take you a little while to get the speeds right but when you do listen closely to the lyrics. Personally i think its easier to reverse play the record a little faster then normal speed because the lyrics are high pitched and it is easier to make the words out.
Comment posted by fitz at 11/05/2004 7:33 PM (Permalink)
When you think about it, it makes perfect sense. When you reverse the direction of a stairway to Heaven, where does it go? Hell, of course.
-Will
-Will
Comment posted by Full Infinity Flame at 11/13/2004 1:29 PM (Permalink)
please forgive what im about to say if you will get offended.
When i read poetry or someone writes a poem.. what is the most important bit? The last two lines.
Look this stairway stuff.. the guy with the vinal who im gonna assume knows wat hes talking about gives us his word his assumption is unquestionable. For the sake of argument.. lets assume he is correct. The first part of the "poem" slightly, ever so slightly praises satan, however it does say he causes suffering? meaning hes bad? i dont know im assuming. The second half spins a negative look towards satan. Now im not religious but i know my religious history and ive studied christianity etc. Israel is not a place for Christians! It is a place for Jews, who according to the Talmud, are not to associate with Jews.
Now whether u know or not, after the battle of waterloo, basically the whole of England was bought by a jewish family as the stock market crumbled, (legally, so nothing wrong with it of course) and who ever has money makes rules of course. Hence why israel was able to be delcared a state even tho palestinians were mistreated.
i think that Led Zep are trying to say somehing witht he last two lines, and bieng open to all points of information and making my own mind up.. I think these last two lines are the focal point, FUCK SATAN, who cares if its a coincidence, they were probly High and wanted to do wat every toher rocker was doing in the 70s.. now of course im gonna get people questiong small parts of what ive said to make me appear ignorant, so im not gonna read any replys or update. Ive said wat ive said. Who CARES! The music played forward is Good.
When i read poetry or someone writes a poem.. what is the most important bit? The last two lines.
Look this stairway stuff.. the guy with the vinal who im gonna assume knows wat hes talking about gives us his word his assumption is unquestionable. For the sake of argument.. lets assume he is correct. The first part of the "poem" slightly, ever so slightly praises satan, however it does say he causes suffering? meaning hes bad? i dont know im assuming. The second half spins a negative look towards satan. Now im not religious but i know my religious history and ive studied christianity etc. Israel is not a place for Christians! It is a place for Jews, who according to the Talmud, are not to associate with Jews.
Now whether u know or not, after the battle of waterloo, basically the whole of England was bought by a jewish family as the stock market crumbled, (legally, so nothing wrong with it of course) and who ever has money makes rules of course. Hence why israel was able to be delcared a state even tho palestinians were mistreated.
i think that Led Zep are trying to say somehing witht he last two lines, and bieng open to all points of information and making my own mind up.. I think these last two lines are the focal point, FUCK SATAN, who cares if its a coincidence, they were probly High and wanted to do wat every toher rocker was doing in the 70s.. now of course im gonna get people questiong small parts of what ive said to make me appear ignorant, so im not gonna read any replys or update. Ive said wat ive said. Who CARES! The music played forward is Good.
Comment posted by Rob at 11/15/2004 6:58 AM (Permalink)
Just finished reading all the way down here and decided to experiment with reversing my own voice. In the song, the word Satan is an illusion. Record yourself saying yes and reverse it. You will get 'Satan' but wuth no 'tan'. your mind creates the tan sound because 'satan' is a sound you recognize and are looking for.
Comment posted by NotUberYet at 11/17/2004 1:41 PM (Permalink)
Okay for those of you who want the full backwards song, I have it.
But I'll only send it to you if you have MSN Messenger; I don't have the time or energy to try sending it through email or linking it.
So if you have MSN, add me at Kitty_wiity_baby_kitten@msn.com and I will send the song.
But I'll only send it to you if you have MSN Messenger; I don't have the time or energy to try sending it through email or linking it.
So if you have MSN, add me at Kitty_wiity_baby_kitten@msn.com and I will send the song.
Comment posted by Briahna at 11/21/2004 4:17 AM (Permalink)
"Just finished reading all the way down here and decided to experiment with reversing my own voice. In the song, the word Satan is an illusion. Record yourself saying yes and reverse it. You will get 'Satan' but wuth no 'tan'. your mind creates the tan sound because 'satan' is a sound you recognize and are looking for."
THANK YOU!!
your brain strives to make connections, so it's natural that it will make things that aren't actually there. if you listen to the song backwards without these "lyrics", then you will hear almost nothing. but if you read the lyrics BEFORE you listen to it backwards, your brain will want to make the connection between the lyrics and the song because it thinks there is an actual connection there.
THANK YOU!!
your brain strives to make connections, so it's natural that it will make things that aren't actually there. if you listen to the song backwards without these "lyrics", then you will hear almost nothing. but if you read the lyrics BEFORE you listen to it backwards, your brain will want to make the connection between the lyrics and the song because it thinks there is an actual connection there.
Comment posted by amh1010 at 11/22/2004 5:13 PM (Permalink)
finnaly someone with some sence... I mean, DOH! without some crazed individual posting some ****ed up lyrics on a site you wont be able to distinguish any of that nonsence. The middle part, I admit, it sounds strange. could be coincidence, could be zep's satanic message or it could be nothing, but the rest is just plain PARANOIA! could example with the "yes"="satan"
Comment posted by Genocide at 11/27/2004 1:52 PM (Permalink)
Hey guys,
I've been really displeased with the way you have been talking about my band... when we wrote this song, we didnt have any satanic intentions... we were just a little high. Please don't make anymore posts in this blog. I'd appreciate it if you all didn't spread rumors about the band.
Thanks, Bye
I've been really displeased with the way you have been talking about my band... when we wrote this song, we didnt have any satanic intentions... we were just a little high. Please don't make anymore posts in this blog. I'd appreciate it if you all didn't spread rumors about the band.
Thanks, Bye
Comment posted by Stairway to heaven at 12/01/2004 7:44 PM (Permalink)
HEY!! i head the song and it is creepy as hell but the song really confuses me... is it really satanic? cuz in the beggining he said he was with god and then he wasnt and at the end it says oh sweet isreal!?!?! What is happening through out this song?
Comment posted by ooooggggaaabooooggaaa at 12/02/2004 3:28 PM (Permalink)
The guy who wrote this song would have had sold his soul to the devil to make it since it seems impossible.
Even if robert plant didnt mean for it to be satanic he should say it was, yea people will think hes satanic but they will also think hes a genius. And can some one please explain to me what the song is about, like what the toolshed is about and what the bustle thing means.
Even if robert plant didnt mean for it to be satanic he should say it was, yea people will think hes satanic but they will also think hes a genius. And can some one please explain to me what the song is about, like what the toolshed is about and what the bustle thing means.
Comment posted by MadGoose at 12/10/2004 12:02 AM (Permalink)
I have all the Answers needed!
I know because i have read the same story in 3 magazines, 2 websites, and 2 books.
Some bored guy was playing his old albums backwards on his new record player for fun.
He heard it and got excited and told every body...
This whole thing is demoting god and about worshipping satan!
I would tell you everything but i'm short of time.
Its kind of funny, because the song forword doesn't make any sense ;p
Anyways, people are saying they don't understand how it happened. I have looked into this matter, and have come to the following conclusion
The subconsious mind is much more powerful than the Concious mind. People use that when the perform REAL psychic feats and when they spontaneously combust and such things. This part of your mind will go off, bells and whisles on anything. When you see some kind of random math problem on a billboard or something, you'r mind will figure the problem out before your consious mind does, and it is also the source of your dreams.
Your subconcious mind will play any sound you hear forward, backward, sideways, and upsided down (dont ask) so you will beleive and remember anything you hear backwards even better than what you hear forwards.
So, you're mind will also take words and phrases that sound like each other backwards (somewhat) and will create messages based on what you truely beleive in. this is how this entire song was made, so there for it was not exactly *Purposeful*.(this is the same part of you're mind that becomes possesed or allows people to speak in tounges)
There are other songs that are completely backward messages too, revolution #9 says things "Get HIM OUT, GET HIM OUT" and something like a car crash I could hear Paul's voice saying "GET ME OUT OF HERE"
I forget the other ones though
Even the most common and childish songs may have messages. infact, "Happy Birthday" sounds something like "When will you be back" or something like that.
Incase you are wondering I study the paranormal
I know because i have read the same story in 3 magazines, 2 websites, and 2 books.
Some bored guy was playing his old albums backwards on his new record player for fun.
He heard it and got excited and told every body...
This whole thing is demoting god and about worshipping satan!
I would tell you everything but i'm short of time.
Its kind of funny, because the song forword doesn't make any sense ;p
Anyways, people are saying they don't understand how it happened. I have looked into this matter, and have come to the following conclusion
The subconsious mind is much more powerful than the Concious mind. People use that when the perform REAL psychic feats and when they spontaneously combust and such things. This part of your mind will go off, bells and whisles on anything. When you see some kind of random math problem on a billboard or something, you'r mind will figure the problem out before your consious mind does, and it is also the source of your dreams.
Your subconcious mind will play any sound you hear forward, backward, sideways, and upsided down (dont ask) so you will beleive and remember anything you hear backwards even better than what you hear forwards.
So, you're mind will also take words and phrases that sound like each other backwards (somewhat) and will create messages based on what you truely beleive in. this is how this entire song was made, so there for it was not exactly *Purposeful*.(this is the same part of you're mind that becomes possesed or allows people to speak in tounges)
There are other songs that are completely backward messages too, revolution #9 says things "Get HIM OUT, GET HIM OUT" and something like a car crash I could hear Paul's voice saying "GET ME OUT OF HERE"
I forget the other ones though
Even the most common and childish songs may have messages. infact, "Happy Birthday" sounds something like "When will you be back" or something like that.
Incase you are wondering I study the paranormal
Comment posted by Gosp at 12/15/2004 6:16 PM (Permalink)
A few weeks ago, I found this site, telling the story of the song, and what it could be about. Those of you who think the song doesn't make sense should read this, since it seems to be pretty true.
https://thinkcap.com/articles/pop/zeppelin_stairway.html
This site mentions Jimmy Page had an Occult Room. The IMDb (Internet Movie Database - imdb.com) says that at one point, he owned the house of Aleister Crowley, a satanist. So if this is true, Jimmy had beliefs of Satan, but it doesn't prove he worshipped Satan.
As for the whole backwards thing, I only heard backwards the short clip of the "If there's a bustle..." verse. I thought it sounded a little like it, but I believe that's just because I read the lyrics beforehand, and subconsciously heard what I was told.
As for the whole backwards speech thing, listen to the Iron Maiden song "Still Life". At the beginning there is backwards talking. This is actually Nicko McBrain, the drummer, saying "Don't mess with things you don't understand", or something like that. The guy from ReverseSpeech.com ignores this, and says that a different part of the song backwards says "The evil man is there". I personally don't hear it.
"Still Life" is actually about a dream Steve Harris (the band's bassist) had (he writes alot about his dreams*). This site says that speech played backwards contains different messages, subconsciously placed there, and often has the truth or what we are really trying to say. Supposing this is true, Jimmy would be telling us of his Satanic ways (the song was also written by Robert Plant as well, and I can't find anything to say that Plant had anything to do with Satan).
I, personally, don't believe in God, Satan, Heaven, Hell, or that reverse speech contains subconscious messages. But think about this - a video of someone running forwards reversed. They run backwards, i.e. what happens when it's reversed is the opposite of what actually happened - the song isn't actually supposed to be about Satan.
*Interesting sidenote - Iron Maiden's hit "The Number Of The Beast" doesn't praise Satan, it's another song about one of Steve Harris' dreams. In the band's recently released documentary, "The Early Days", Steve says he isn't a Satanist.
https://thinkcap.com/articles/pop/zeppelin_stairway.html
This site mentions Jimmy Page had an Occult Room. The IMDb (Internet Movie Database - imdb.com) says that at one point, he owned the house of Aleister Crowley, a satanist. So if this is true, Jimmy had beliefs of Satan, but it doesn't prove he worshipped Satan.
As for the whole backwards thing, I only heard backwards the short clip of the "If there's a bustle..." verse. I thought it sounded a little like it, but I believe that's just because I read the lyrics beforehand, and subconsciously heard what I was told.
As for the whole backwards speech thing, listen to the Iron Maiden song "Still Life". At the beginning there is backwards talking. This is actually Nicko McBrain, the drummer, saying "Don't mess with things you don't understand", or something like that. The guy from ReverseSpeech.com ignores this, and says that a different part of the song backwards says "The evil man is there". I personally don't hear it.
"Still Life" is actually about a dream Steve Harris (the band's bassist) had (he writes alot about his dreams*). This site says that speech played backwards contains different messages, subconsciously placed there, and often has the truth or what we are really trying to say. Supposing this is true, Jimmy would be telling us of his Satanic ways (the song was also written by Robert Plant as well, and I can't find anything to say that Plant had anything to do with Satan).
I, personally, don't believe in God, Satan, Heaven, Hell, or that reverse speech contains subconscious messages. But think about this - a video of someone running forwards reversed. They run backwards, i.e. what happens when it's reversed is the opposite of what actually happened - the song isn't actually supposed to be about Satan.
*Interesting sidenote - Iron Maiden's hit "The Number Of The Beast" doesn't praise Satan, it's another song about one of Steve Harris' dreams. In the band's recently released documentary, "The Early Days", Steve says he isn't a Satanist.
Comment posted by Iain ND at 12/16/2004 12:02 AM (Permalink)
Okay, it is feasible that they may have written a Satanic song and backmasked - it is possible, though each person has the right to interpret that as they will.
The thing that you have to remember is that on one of his later solo albums, Robert Plant also did a song called "If I Were a Carpenter", which was clearly a pean to Jesus.
So even if people dabble in the occult, they can still be Saved. And for those who don't believe, it just shows that people - even Led Zeppelin artists - can change over time.
The thing that you have to remember is that on one of his later solo albums, Robert Plant also did a song called "If I Were a Carpenter", which was clearly a pean to Jesus.
So even if people dabble in the occult, they can still be Saved. And for those who don't believe, it just shows that people - even Led Zeppelin artists - can change over time.
Comment posted by Rob at 12/24/2004 11:40 AM (Permalink)
I've listened to Stairway in reverse (on my computer, seeing as I don't want to do any damage to what I want to remain a mint copy of Led Zep IIII), and I don't know if it sounds any different on reversed vinyl or what, but I can definately say that the vocal line between the solo ("As we wind on down the road" to "To be a rock and not to roll") is as you say it is. I can't be sure about the rest.
Also, you could damage your stylus reversing a record like that, it's designed to pull, not push...
Also, you could damage your stylus reversing a record like that, it's designed to pull, not push...
Comment posted by Jimi at 2/10/2005 12:58 PM (Permalink)
Listen to music rather than arguing about what it means
Comment posted by Music fan at 2/15/2005 10:18 AM (Permalink)
hi
its just gross to brainwash 8-10 year old children who like pokemon and i never liked led zeppelin but my friend told me that they were good and i was in some chatroom and someone said that theare was hidden message in led zepp songs so i googled it and found this page and listend to it and now i hate led zeppelin
worshipping satan is just gross and theare was an teacher in new york universiti who playd the song for his class, then he asked everyone to write the first thing that komes intoo their mind when they listend to it. half the class wroted something sbout satan or lucifer so the brain does her the message. its just terrable to brainwash peoble like that!
p.s. i like metallica would you check if theare is any satanic messages in their songs
its just gross to brainwash 8-10 year old children who like pokemon and i never liked led zeppelin but my friend told me that they were good and i was in some chatroom and someone said that theare was hidden message in led zepp songs so i googled it and found this page and listend to it and now i hate led zeppelin
worshipping satan is just gross and theare was an teacher in new york universiti who playd the song for his class, then he asked everyone to write the first thing that komes intoo their mind when they listend to it. half the class wroted something sbout satan or lucifer so the brain does her the message. its just terrable to brainwash peoble like that!
p.s. i like metallica would you check if theare is any satanic messages in their songs
Comment posted by isak at 2/19/2005 6:00 PM (Permalink)
I wish i had a Led Zeppelin Album on Vynil. Im 16 im sad i missed Led Zeppelin.
Comment posted by David_Lindsay at 2/21/2005 3:11 PM (Permalink)
Isak...
One personally I don't think led zeppelin was intended for 8-10 year children. Two its a fact that the brain can't process music backwards and forwards there is just too much information. Three the song isn't necessarily written for satan but about satan. Lastly buy a dictionary.
One personally I don't think led zeppelin was intended for 8-10 year children. Two its a fact that the brain can't process music backwards and forwards there is just too much information. Three the song isn't necessarily written for satan but about satan. Lastly buy a dictionary.
Comment posted by davey164 at 2/21/2005 8:09 PM (Permalink)
one more thing is you can't hear a message that isn't there
Comment posted by davey164 at 2/21/2005 8:11 PM (Permalink)
Hi, i think this is real but my parents say its a hoax i want to prove to them that this is real!! My friend and i were looking for what was satan backwords and its played three times so we looked for the only word that was played three times and that was "there's" i love Led Zepplin and i think its really stupid to like someone until you hear satanic messages in their songs then be all like omg eww gross i hate this person now. I would love to have a record player and this record just to prove my parents wrong and show them that I for once have been right! I wish i could prove this and be sure, i really want to know so i am not going to read the full lyrics until i get a chance to hear the full song backwards in person because then i won't know what i'm listening for. Thanks for your information Jeff.
~lalela
~lalela
Comment posted by ~lalela at 2/23/2005 7:13 PM (Permalink)
hey jeff,
its cool that you flipped all these songs. my best friend told me about this. That yoko ono thing just scares the shit outta me. my friend told me to listen to it backwards with the lyrics hidden. actual ive heard about the same things so ur not insane or retarded like some dude said. pleeeease flip the whole entire song. thanx! -Lilay
its cool that you flipped all these songs. my best friend told me about this. That yoko ono thing just scares the shit outta me. my friend told me to listen to it backwards with the lyrics hidden. actual ive heard about the same things so ur not insane or retarded like some dude said. pleeeease flip the whole entire song. thanx! -Lilay
Comment posted by Lilay at 2/26/2005 4:49 PM (Permalink)
After reading the first 30 posts and pgdn-inng the rest I would have to say that this blog is full of kids.
religious bits:
If your christian, fine
If your anything else, fine
This website is fun - reversing any audio (or video for that matter) is funny and there are several things that are done deliberatly done - take the reverse earth episode of red dwarf for example (for you americans its a BBC program)
If you get 'wierd'(whether you consider them to be satanic or not) messages when playing audio backwards - good for you but for christs/ sorry [insert deity here] sake don't fear it!
Don't ask me stupid flaming questions either like 'what God do you worship?' as if He/It is a football team that just shows no respect for YOUR creator. My message to you all is...
FOR F**KS SAKE DO NOT TAKE REVERSE MESSAGES SERIOUSLY, ITS JUST A FLUKE.
On a lighter note has anybody reversed german/spanish whatever songs to see if there are any 'wierd' messages in either english/german/ whatever?
With the sheer number of languages out there, we could reverse ANY audio and find a message backwards in a different language - how many of us actually know all the languages currently in use on the planet?
This is why I'm telling you not to fear any of this.
remember also that some time ago a very famous person was jailed for saying the Earth goes around the Sun by fellows of some of the people posting on this page.
religious bits:
If your christian, fine
If your anything else, fine
This website is fun - reversing any audio (or video for that matter) is funny and there are several things that are done deliberatly done - take the reverse earth episode of red dwarf for example (for you americans its a BBC program)
If you get 'wierd'(whether you consider them to be satanic or not) messages when playing audio backwards - good for you but for christs/ sorry [insert deity here] sake don't fear it!
Don't ask me stupid flaming questions either like 'what God do you worship?' as if He/It is a football team that just shows no respect for YOUR creator. My message to you all is...
FOR F**KS SAKE DO NOT TAKE REVERSE MESSAGES SERIOUSLY, ITS JUST A FLUKE.
On a lighter note has anybody reversed german/spanish whatever songs to see if there are any 'wierd' messages in either english/german/ whatever?
With the sheer number of languages out there, we could reverse ANY audio and find a message backwards in a different language - how many of us actually know all the languages currently in use on the planet?
This is why I'm telling you not to fear any of this.
remember also that some time ago a very famous person was jailed for saying the Earth goes around the Sun by fellows of some of the people posting on this page.
Comment posted by natassiohw at 3/03/2005 2:21 PM (Permalink)
Led Zep still rules. Sorry, if I'm insulting anyone, but some people here are mixing up Jimmy Page and Robert Plant in this forum. Robert Plant was the singer who created this song because he wanted to give up the Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll life and become a Christian. As many people know he has his own soft rock Christian band. He was the one who wrote the song. Jimmy Page was the Guitarist and did not write this song. He does own a house that was owned by Aleister Crowley, but who cares. When I heard about this I thought it was cool and didn't care. If a person is going to destroy stuff from Zeppelin they should destroy stuff from great bands like Alice Cooper, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest', Black Sabbath and Ozzy Osbourne. People are mixing up the words. (It is crazy how if you look at the phrase "And She's buying a stairway to heaven" turns into "Play backwards". The words just don't fit in. ) Led Zep and Stairway to Heaven still rule and this is just something interesting that someone found one day.
Comment posted by LED ZEP RULES!!! at 3/08/2005 2:33 PM (Permalink)
origonally posted by natassiohw:
"FOR F**KS SAKE DO NOT TAKE REVERSE MESSAGES SERIOUSLY, ITS JUST A FLUKE."
Just tell me... how does an entire song have a backwards message in it that is just a fluke? EXPLAIN THAT ONE!!!
"FOR F**KS SAKE DO NOT TAKE REVERSE MESSAGES SERIOUSLY, ITS JUST A FLUKE."
Just tell me... how does an entire song have a backwards message in it that is just a fluke? EXPLAIN THAT ONE!!!
Comment posted by RYjet911 at 3/15/2005 1:49 PM (Permalink)
also... that "Earth" episode of Red Dwarf is called "Backwards" and the whole point is that it is a backwards universe... in the book it is universe 3, while ours is the cock up universe where things go wrong all the time. universe 3 is SUPPOSED to go backwards... I suppose people who listened to this song backwards there would also be wondering "Why are there "Christianic Messages" in a song about Satan? Then you would be complaning about how people where being childish for reversing a satanic song and hearing a PERFECT reverse message... although then technically you would be complaning to them BEFORE they done anything becuase you are complaining AFTER they've done something in this universe...
Sorry, i get carried away when it comes to red dwarf
But still, the reverse song is pretty much a 1 in 1 chance of it being made on purpose
Sorry, i get carried away when it comes to red dwarf
But still, the reverse song is pretty much a 1 in 1 chance of it being made on purpose
Comment posted by RYjet911 at 3/15/2005 2:04 PM (Permalink)
also... that "Earth" episode of Red Dwarf is called "Backwards" and the whole point is that it is a backwards universe... in the book it is universe 3, while ours is the cock up universe where things go wrong all the time. universe 3 is SUPPOSED to go backwards... I suppose people who listened to this song backwards there would also be wondering "Why are there "Christianic Messages" in a song about Satan? Then you would be complaning about how people where being childish for reversing a satanic song and hearing a PERFECT reverse message... although then technically you would be complaning to them BEFORE they done anything becuase you are complaining AFTER they've done something in this universe...
Sorry, i get carried away when it comes to red dwarf
But still, the reverse song is pretty much a 1 in 1 chance of it being made on purpose
Sorry, i get carried away when it comes to red dwarf
But still, the reverse song is pretty much a 1 in 1 chance of it being made on purpose
Comment posted by RYjet911 at 3/15/2005 2:05 PM (Permalink)
As a hardcore Led Zeppelin fan, I am gonna completely deny that this was done on purpose. I can't find my vinyl copy of Stairway to Heaven but when I do, I'm going to rig my record player to play backwards. When I hear it myself, I might have my suspicions.
Comment posted by Zeppelin_Fan at 3/29/2005 9:28 AM (Permalink)
I cannot believe all of you! Do you have any idea how many English words sound like Satan when played backwards? This sounds kinda sad but me and a mate of mine spent an hour saying words into a mic and then playing them backwards, we found no less than 24 words that sounded like Satan!
The whole song backwards makes LESS sense than the song forwards!
If I may make a comment to "faithfulservant", you said that we were made in god's image and that we should therefore be able to understand songs backwards when they're played forwards. What a pile of cr@p! IS HUMANKIND CAPABLE OF CREATING WORLDS?! IS HUMANKIND CAPABLE OF BEING ALL FORGIVING AND KIND?! NO!!!
amh1010, you know what I mean and probably understand the idea better than I do. I agree with you fully, your mind interprets the gibberish that you hear into words that make a weird message.
The message is a simple coincidence, I have seen so many versions of interpretations on the internet that it's lost it's novelty.
The whole song backwards makes LESS sense than the song forwards!
If I may make a comment to "faithfulservant", you said that we were made in god's image and that we should therefore be able to understand songs backwards when they're played forwards. What a pile of cr@p! IS HUMANKIND CAPABLE OF CREATING WORLDS?! IS HUMANKIND CAPABLE OF BEING ALL FORGIVING AND KIND?! NO!!!
amh1010, you know what I mean and probably understand the idea better than I do. I agree with you fully, your mind interprets the gibberish that you hear into words that make a weird message.
The message is a simple coincidence, I have seen so many versions of interpretations on the internet that it's lost it's novelty.
Comment posted by GodsPlanB at 3/30/2005 4:11 AM (Permalink)
omg no one made a comment about one of the band members possibly posting
QUOTE
Hey guys,
I've been really displeased with the way you have been talking about my band... when we wrote this song, we didnt have any satanic intentions... we were just a little high. Please don't make anymore posts in this blog. I'd appreciate it if you all didn't spread rumors about the band.
Thanks, Bye
Comment posted by Stairway to heaven at 7:44 PM (Permalink)
QUOTE
Hey guys,
I've been really displeased with the way you have been talking about my band... when we wrote this song, we didnt have any satanic intentions... we were just a little high. Please don't make anymore posts in this blog. I'd appreciate it if you all didn't spread rumors about the band.
Thanks, Bye
Comment posted by Stairway to heaven at 7:44 PM (Permalink)
Comment posted by mike at 3/30/2005 6:04 PM (Permalink)
bear in mind the sound "NATTASE" has to be said somewhere in the song to hear Satan played backwards
Comment posted by RYjet911 at 3/31/2005 2:04 AM (Permalink)
to the guy two or three posts up... is there a god? hard to say really as there is no proof he exists... the bible isnt proof as that is an all ages story book
Comment posted by RYjet911 at 3/31/2005 2:07 AM (Permalink)
Siht dear uoy fi Tsinatas a gnieb yldesoppus no snoitalutargnoc dna. Rorrim eht ni kool a ekat ot emit s'ti. Ti gnisu need ev'yeht emit eht revo gnisu need evah Tsihc fo srewollof eht noitpeced eht redisnoc uoy nehw tub rial eht si Natas yas yeht.
Segassam sdrawkcab dna sgnineam neddih rof gnikcehc srehto dna siht ekil sgnos no skcik rof ylbaborp siht ekil ffuts od ot desu Noitagitsevni fo Uerueb Laredef eht.
Tros eht fo gnihtyna tbuod ylhgih eye. Dedrocer yllanigiro saw siht emit ti tniop taht ta ti otni tup ot dah ev'dluow yeht troffe fo tnuoma eht gniredisnoc hguohtla. Did yeht fi looc yllaer eb d'ti esac siht ni revewoh. "Sgninaem owt evah sdrow semitemos esuaceb."
Segassam sdrawkcab dna sgnineam neddih rof gnikcehc srehto dna siht ekil sgnos no skcik rof ylbaborp siht ekil ffuts od ot desu Noitagitsevni fo Uerueb Laredef eht.
Tros eht fo gnihtyna tbuod ylhgih eye. Dedrocer yllanigiro saw siht emit ti tniop taht ta ti otni tup ot dah ev'dluow yeht troffe fo tnuoma eht gniredisnoc hguohtla. Did yeht fi looc yllaer eb d'ti esac siht ni revewoh. "Sgninaem owt evah sdrow semitemos esuaceb."
Comment posted by Nameless Child at 3/31/2005 6:32 AM (Permalink)
Theres a part @ 4:30-4:35 min while played backwards or the part"And its whispers that soon then we all call the tune"forward is "Lord forgive me for saying or using the word santan"
Comment posted by bobosquak at 4/01/2005 5:38 PM (Permalink)
Hey I'm no Satanist Nameless child (Although I am probably the only person who could be bothered to read that backwards message he wrote)!!!
There are some songs that only sound like backwards messages when you see backwards lyrics. These songs HAVEN'T ogt backwards messages in. The songs that have backwards messages are the ones where you can here them clearly without having a single look at the lyrics, as i did
There are some songs that only sound like backwards messages when you see backwards lyrics. These songs HAVEN'T ogt backwards messages in. The songs that have backwards messages are the ones where you can here them clearly without having a single look at the lyrics, as i did
Comment posted by RYjet911 at 4/08/2005 6:52 AM (Permalink)
It's saturday night, and you would think I would have a better thing to do... but here I am, writing a comment after reading this whole page without a break. I heard about this site by my brother, who sent an email called 'Fun Links', I would not really call this fun, since it gave me me the creeps. I know that some of you say that it is stupid to freak out from hearing this backwards-played song, but it just happened. Maybe it is because a 'Satanic' message hidden by the 'great' Satan, (oh no, I'm not a follower of Satan, dun get the wrong idea) or just the thought that Led Zep actually spent time making this song make sense in both ways. But I got curious all the same, and now I can't wait to hear the whole song.
Now, I did follow the lyrics when I heard the thing for the first time, but since I actually have to listen to any song like a hundred times before I can actually remember the words, I had no problem listening to it again and not remember what I've just read. Yes, it makes a lot of sense when you read the lyrics, but when I played it again, I was like "What the heck are they talking about?" I have heard Satan once, and the 666 thing was clear, also the 'sadly' thing, and 'suffer' but that was it. Everything else was like hearing a Japanese talking to me, actually a Japanese would make more sense for he's saying actual words (or sounds). Just like 'Another One Bites The Dust', it sound in backwards, to me, "It's sad to Lilli Warana", the last two words are Arabic words, which means something like "those behind us". So, you see, you can hear whatever you want, I'm not denying that some words actually make sense, but I just believe that you people are filling the blanks in, or translating the gibberish you're hearing into whatever sounds familiar to it.
But then, now that I'm thinking more about it, I doubt what I am saying but I if I play it again, I will hear the same sounds that I cannot understand. Pokemon Rap threw me a bit off, because it sounds exactly like what I've read, but to think about it... what is the point behind the whole thing? Who ever thought that people would actually try to play the songs backwards? Maybe some would do that for chuckles, wondering how stupid singers would sound, but did somebody actually spent all that time to make a song understandable both ways and did not announce it? Seriously, if the people who wrote them were Satanists, don't you think they would tell the world the backmasked msg of their song, to show that they are loyal followers of 'Satan'? Or were they thinking that they would brainwash people into following Satan that way? I mean, come on, think about logically, without being stubborn about it. What is the benefit behind the whole thing?
Anyway, I just felt like writing this thing down to calm myself down. This site was a real eye-opener, so I would like to thank you JM for bringing this whole thing up. And, unlike some people who posted before, I am glad that everybody is commenting about this, even those called 'Morons', it makes things interesting and gets you thinking and it is always better to know what people think about something before making up your mind since a lot of times, you may change the way you look at things when you find a better way.
Final shout, the people who are throwing away the records and everything that refers to Led Zep... I think it is just like racism. Everybody got their beliefs, and whether Led Zep are indeed Satanists (I am not saying they are) or not, that does not make their music any less great for whoever think they are great, since I've never actually listened to any of their music. Throwing away their music just shows, and I don't mean it to offend you it's just a fact, that you are close-minded. Good music is just that... good. Backmasked msg or not, it does not matter, you are listening to it forward, who give a hey about what it sounds like when you are playing it backwards. If the words 'Satan' in a backwards-played song makes you throw away tapes, CDs, records and make you stop listening to music, then you would be sitting in silence all your life. I know they say "Look for hidden meanings in life" but this is a step too far.
P.S.: People, don't be childish and try not to lessen somebody's belief and opinion by commenting on their grammar and spellings. Heck, we all make those mistakes and not everybody's mothertongue is English, and I'm one of them. So please be grownups and show some respect.
Now, I did follow the lyrics when I heard the thing for the first time, but since I actually have to listen to any song like a hundred times before I can actually remember the words, I had no problem listening to it again and not remember what I've just read. Yes, it makes a lot of sense when you read the lyrics, but when I played it again, I was like "What the heck are they talking about?" I have heard Satan once, and the 666 thing was clear, also the 'sadly' thing, and 'suffer' but that was it. Everything else was like hearing a Japanese talking to me, actually a Japanese would make more sense for he's saying actual words (or sounds). Just like 'Another One Bites The Dust', it sound in backwards, to me, "It's sad to Lilli Warana", the last two words are Arabic words, which means something like "those behind us". So, you see, you can hear whatever you want, I'm not denying that some words actually make sense, but I just believe that you people are filling the blanks in, or translating the gibberish you're hearing into whatever sounds familiar to it.
But then, now that I'm thinking more about it, I doubt what I am saying but I if I play it again, I will hear the same sounds that I cannot understand. Pokemon Rap threw me a bit off, because it sounds exactly like what I've read, but to think about it... what is the point behind the whole thing? Who ever thought that people would actually try to play the songs backwards? Maybe some would do that for chuckles, wondering how stupid singers would sound, but did somebody actually spent all that time to make a song understandable both ways and did not announce it? Seriously, if the people who wrote them were Satanists, don't you think they would tell the world the backmasked msg of their song, to show that they are loyal followers of 'Satan'? Or were they thinking that they would brainwash people into following Satan that way? I mean, come on, think about logically, without being stubborn about it. What is the benefit behind the whole thing?
Anyway, I just felt like writing this thing down to calm myself down. This site was a real eye-opener, so I would like to thank you JM for bringing this whole thing up. And, unlike some people who posted before, I am glad that everybody is commenting about this, even those called 'Morons', it makes things interesting and gets you thinking and it is always better to know what people think about something before making up your mind since a lot of times, you may change the way you look at things when you find a better way.
Final shout, the people who are throwing away the records and everything that refers to Led Zep... I think it is just like racism. Everybody got their beliefs, and whether Led Zep are indeed Satanists (I am not saying they are) or not, that does not make their music any less great for whoever think they are great, since I've never actually listened to any of their music. Throwing away their music just shows, and I don't mean it to offend you it's just a fact, that you are close-minded. Good music is just that... good. Backmasked msg or not, it does not matter, you are listening to it forward, who give a hey about what it sounds like when you are playing it backwards. If the words 'Satan' in a backwards-played song makes you throw away tapes, CDs, records and make you stop listening to music, then you would be sitting in silence all your life. I know they say "Look for hidden meanings in life" but this is a step too far.
P.S.: People, don't be childish and try not to lessen somebody's belief and opinion by commenting on their grammar and spellings. Heck, we all make those mistakes and not everybody's mothertongue is English, and I'm one of them. So please be grownups and show some respect.
Comment posted by ThE KiDDo at 4/09/2005 9:51 PM (Permalink)
If anyone has downloaded the "Stairway to Hell" track that already has the song reversed and slowed, you still might doubt the authenticity of the lyrics. If you did take your perspective from that version of the song, you have to slow it down just a little more to hear it all clear. I heard it best when I slowed it down in Windows Media Player to, surprise, .666 play speed.
Comment posted by Jason Paul at 4/12/2005 12:59 AM (Permalink)
Here is an idea for ya: Try singing the backwards lyrics into a tape recorder, then reversing it and see if you get Stairway To Heaven....
Comment posted by Speed Harris at 4/14/2005 11:50 AM (Permalink)
There's an easy way to explain it, You can only see the words IF you knew they were there before-hand, if you listen to it backwards, and not know anything, you will not hear half the words backwards, yeah it sounds like it says satan, like once, and its hardly distiguishable, its coincidence, and not to be taken seriously, and for people who hate Zeppelin now, your were such a poser to begin with, you shouldn't hate a band because of their beliefs, and being a satanist DOES NOT necessarily mean you believe in Satan, it basically means you believe in the power of the individual. Zeppelin made a damn good song, and coincidence shouldn't change that, and the guy says in the email
2nd Sentence, First Paragraph.
"...EVERY word from start to finish is undeniable and distinguishable. Easily heard if you know what to look for..."
He even says it, IF YOU KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR. I think I've made my point good day!
and also anyone can play it backwards and hear diff thing than another person.
Also your mind cannot translate backwards words, you only make them sound as close to a known words, and note that when a word is translated backwards it add more or less sylables. So with that being said it's not real, its a creepy coincidence, people know the facts before you make these snap judgements, yes I was very creeped out, but I wasn't going to change my opinion on a song before I knew the truth behinmd the music.
Final Verdict: Coincidence!
2nd Sentence, First Paragraph.
"...EVERY word from start to finish is undeniable and distinguishable. Easily heard if you know what to look for..."
He even says it, IF YOU KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR. I think I've made my point good day!
and also anyone can play it backwards and hear diff thing than another person.
Also your mind cannot translate backwards words, you only make them sound as close to a known words, and note that when a word is translated backwards it add more or less sylables. So with that being said it's not real, its a creepy coincidence, people know the facts before you make these snap judgements, yes I was very creeped out, but I wasn't going to change my opinion on a song before I knew the truth behinmd the music.
Final Verdict: Coincidence!
Comment posted by Kryzco at 4/17/2005 5:06 PM (Permalink)
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Comment posted by Antoine at 4/22/2005 2:48 PM (Permalink)
I've never tried to reverse the song or to look at the "FULL" lyrics so I don't konw if this is true or not. I'll have to hear it for real.
MP3s are REALLY lossy, and some MP3 encoders are enhancing the sound so we hear less artefacts, but this enhancment is meant to be played forward. I hear MP3 artefacts even if I downloaded a 320kbps version. OGG has not this problem. Red Hot Chili Peppers is a good example. A 320kpbs MP3 still sound really bad, while an OGG file of 96kpbs will not show artefacts. I don't say a 128kpbs can't sound better than a 96kpbs OGG with some types of music, but it's not as lossy.
DON'T PLAY THE RECORD BACKWARDS. There are hundreds of different stylus that are not made the same, and some will self-destruct or destruct the record. Instead, someone could try to record it with a cassette recorder and to reverse the head or to use a 4-track head and invert the wires.
For better quality, don't use a CD. Instead, get one of these new Audigy 2 ZS sound cards and record your LP @ 96kbps 24bit. That's practically DVD quality. I find (good) tapes to sound better than a CD(While less detailed), certainly because CD players people have are often cheapo Sony and the like.
We can't say if it's intentionnaly made or not. We have NOT to look at the lyrics to really hear it. Normally, tunes make NO sense reversed. And voices sound like fade outs if there's no intention. Also, some "intended" messages, forward played, are not pronounced as the lyrics are telling.
Every time *I* listen to a song in english, the words make no sense(While I understand the words) without reading lyrics. Then, I read the lyrics *with* the tune playing and the pronouncination is not the same and intended to be. After seeing the Reverse lyrics, I hear Eminem on forward telling "Smil" Shady, and Queen telling Another wam bites the dust.
IMO MP3s suck, and the only time I tried WMA, I never wanted to listen to one again. OGG is the way to go. There are surely losses somewhere, but it's not sounding like **** like MP3s if there's some.
Finally,
If you want to hear it correctly, use CDex to extract "stairway" form the CD, go in some WAV editor to reverse it, and play it with Foobar to slow the song without changing pitch. Use OGG to send it to someone. CDex can encode them. I never listened to an LP for 10 years, and I was too young to remember how was the sound.
Also, anybody knows someone with a laser turntable? It costs 20 000$, and reads intact areas of the LP with lasers for practically 1:1 reproduction. I know National Archives Library of Canada has some.
MP3s are REALLY lossy, and some MP3 encoders are enhancing the sound so we hear less artefacts, but this enhancment is meant to be played forward. I hear MP3 artefacts even if I downloaded a 320kbps version. OGG has not this problem. Red Hot Chili Peppers is a good example. A 320kpbs MP3 still sound really bad, while an OGG file of 96kpbs will not show artefacts. I don't say a 128kpbs can't sound better than a 96kpbs OGG with some types of music, but it's not as lossy.
DON'T PLAY THE RECORD BACKWARDS. There are hundreds of different stylus that are not made the same, and some will self-destruct or destruct the record. Instead, someone could try to record it with a cassette recorder and to reverse the head or to use a 4-track head and invert the wires.
For better quality, don't use a CD. Instead, get one of these new Audigy 2 ZS sound cards and record your LP @ 96kbps 24bit. That's practically DVD quality. I find (good) tapes to sound better than a CD(While less detailed), certainly because CD players people have are often cheapo Sony and the like.
We can't say if it's intentionnaly made or not. We have NOT to look at the lyrics to really hear it. Normally, tunes make NO sense reversed. And voices sound like fade outs if there's no intention. Also, some "intended" messages, forward played, are not pronounced as the lyrics are telling.
Every time *I* listen to a song in english, the words make no sense(While I understand the words) without reading lyrics. Then, I read the lyrics *with* the tune playing and the pronouncination is not the same and intended to be. After seeing the Reverse lyrics, I hear Eminem on forward telling "Smil" Shady, and Queen telling Another wam bites the dust.
IMO MP3s suck, and the only time I tried WMA, I never wanted to listen to one again. OGG is the way to go. There are surely losses somewhere, but it's not sounding like **** like MP3s if there's some.
Finally,
If you want to hear it correctly, use CDex to extract "stairway" form the CD, go in some WAV editor to reverse it, and play it with Foobar to slow the song without changing pitch. Use OGG to send it to someone. CDex can encode them. I never listened to an LP for 10 years, and I was too young to remember how was the sound.
Also, anybody knows someone with a laser turntable? It costs 20 000$, and reads intact areas of the LP with lasers for practically 1:1 reproduction. I know National Archives Library of Canada has some.
Comment posted by Antoine at 4/22/2005 2:52 PM (Permalink)
I read some comments, actually the number 666 is the number given to the beast, in the Bible, it says that the number will have to be writen on your right hand, or your forehead to be able to eat (it will be like a credit card thing with a cip).
People that believe in God may not put the devils number on the hand, or forehead. If they do they are no longer Gods children, therefor they can not enter heaven. Anyways.. for you to get what I just said, you must study the Bible deeply.
I think that by these songs its the devils way to make people prays him through songs without even knowing that they are doing it.
PS: can you send me the whole song through e-mail? My adress is onlyfor_reasons@hotmail.com.
People that believe in God may not put the devils number on the hand, or forehead. If they do they are no longer Gods children, therefor they can not enter heaven. Anyways.. for you to get what I just said, you must study the Bible deeply.
I think that by these songs its the devils way to make people prays him through songs without even knowing that they are doing it.
PS: can you send me the whole song through e-mail? My adress is onlyfor_reasons@hotmail.com.
Comment posted by Simona at 5/07/2005 10:37 AM (Permalink)
ok i have seen a few reuqests for the Stairway To Heaven track backwards... there is a simple way of doing it yourself... and i will say it
Requirements:
Windows XP, microphone
Steps:
1) If you have windows xp... go to volume control... go to options...click on properties.. click the circle that shows "Recording"... click the box for stereo mixer...
2) Go to start...go to programs...go to accessories... go to etertainment... go to sound recorder
3) Open up the Stairway to Heaven track... click record on the sound recorder and play the song
4) When the recording is done just reverse it...
Requirements:
Windows XP, microphone
Steps:
1) If you have windows xp... go to volume control... go to options...click on properties.. click the circle that shows "Recording"... click the box for stereo mixer...
2) Go to start...go to programs...go to accessories... go to etertainment... go to sound recorder
3) Open up the Stairway to Heaven track... click record on the sound recorder and play the song
4) When the recording is done just reverse it...
Comment posted by Heresy at 5/10/2005 1:49 AM (Permalink)
I think it is great how they did this it must have taken a while to come up with words that work both ways
it is creepy how many times I have listened to this song and not known what was just under the skin
muhahhaha
it is creepy how many times I have listened to this song and not known what was just under the skin
muhahhaha
Comment posted by jub jub at 5/11/2005 3:26 PM (Permalink)
To say that this is coincidence is fools' talk. These lyrics were placed diliberately and artfully. There is no beauty in Satanic worship, nor is there worth in this tribute to the fallen angel. To say this was coincidence is like saying that a Western author accidentally alludes to or draws ideas from ancient Greek texts. A fool speaks "coincidence".
Comment posted by J. Buck at 5/14/2005 11:34 PM (Permalink)
Why are you all getting so uptight over such a trivial thing? The song has a secret message backwards, sure, but i think that Zepplin did this, if it was on purpose, to show that you can go up and down on the stairway, from heaven to hell, depending on your actions. They do say quite a bit that you have 2 paths, as are cited in previous posts.
Even if you are going to throw out your discs or cds, dont tell others to. let them make their opinion. Zep is, and probably will continue to be, my favorite band. simply because you are either too blinded in your faith or unable to grip that they were such musical geniuses as to do something as complex as this, dont ruin the experience for others who also may enjoy their music.
of course, you are free to have your own opinion.
Even if you are going to throw out your discs or cds, dont tell others to. let them make their opinion. Zep is, and probably will continue to be, my favorite band. simply because you are either too blinded in your faith or unable to grip that they were such musical geniuses as to do something as complex as this, dont ruin the experience for others who also may enjoy their music.
of course, you are free to have your own opinion.
Comment posted by Nah at 5/19/2005 2:24 PM (Permalink)
Do you people understand the implications of writing a song which is coherent both forwards and backwards? It would take years and thousands upon thousands of takes to get it right. I think if it sounds like anything, it is merely coincidence. Maybe a passage or two could be done deliberately, but no more. Thats my two cents anyway.
Comment posted by Party_Pooper at 5/28/2005 7:21 PM (Permalink)
I cant believe I made it to the bottom of all these msgs and each has a valid opinion. Can anyone explain the lyrics both forwards and backwards, they don't really make any sense either way. After listening to the short clip (bustle in your hedgerow) I thought it was rather freaky. I have been a Led Zep fan since I was 16 and I will continue to love their music regardless of the result of this debate. I would like to hear the full backwards version though, just out of curiosity.
Comment posted by Eternal Led Zep Fan at 5/29/2005 2:45 PM (Permalink)
"Well, I guess for you; ignorance is bliss. Your spelling is pathetic as well. 1. It does NOT damage a record player's needle by spinning an album backwards. Grooves are grooves in both directions. 2. For the band to deny this doesn't matter at all. Even they may be ignorant to the fact that the backmasking exists (and it undeniably does whether YOU choose to believe it or not). 3. I am not Satan by ANY means. The fact that I (we) have curiosity about our purpose here on Earth only shows that we are Human." alanseijas said this... so I have to say, shut the fuck up personally i think its a coincidence. I don't really care about this Led Zeppelin was a great band and anyone who obsesses over wheter they are satanic or not needs to 1. get a life 2. get laid 3. stop being the douchebag nerd you are.
An as others have said you can make it sound what you want it to sound like, with lyrics inrfont of you of course your gonna think thats what its saying. My fiend and I have said things into his computer, played them backwards and we both come up with different things for what its saying. Also a friend of mine told me that the actual satanic message is not 666 it is 616. Scientists misuderstood i suppose.
- Leader
An as others have said you can make it sound what you want it to sound like, with lyrics inrfont of you of course your gonna think thats what its saying. My fiend and I have said things into his computer, played them backwards and we both come up with different things for what its saying. Also a friend of mine told me that the actual satanic message is not 666 it is 616. Scientists misuderstood i suppose.
- Leader
Comment posted by Leader at 5/29/2005 9:31 PM (Permalink)
did it ever occur to u pple that if it was intentional its there just for fun? i mean ur reading into it too much ppl even if they worshipped satan it doesnt make their music any different if u dont like what it says backwards listen to it the right way if ur into satan and thats what u like go for it. i personally believe its there on purpose caue i have listened to it on my dads vinyl
also back tracking doesnt reverse the sound of the words it works off the other side of the groove in a record so all ur "backwards sounds" theorys are bullsh*t sorry folks
also back tracking doesnt reverse the sound of the words it works off the other side of the groove in a record so all ur "backwards sounds" theorys are bullsh*t sorry folks
Comment posted by i rule at 6/01/2005 8:59 PM (Permalink)
how r u completely sure that there are absolutely no mistakes of ur copy of Stair way to heaven backwards?
Comment posted by messa at 6/03/2005 11:45 AM (Permalink)
jeff,
how do u know that all the lyrics of the song played backwards ( stairway to heaven) are completely error free....what did u do to ensure that every word is correct
how do u know that all the lyrics of the song played backwards ( stairway to heaven) are completely error free....what did u do to ensure that every word is correct
Comment posted by messa at 6/03/2005 11:46 AM (Permalink)
hey this is to k. seijas,
You have made a mistake in your song...well i think it is a mistake... in your song it says:
The 'Lord' turned me on,
but i think it is supposed to say this:
The 'Lord' turned on me
from,
AMC
You have made a mistake in your song...well i think it is a mistake... in your song it says:
The 'Lord' turned me on,
but i think it is supposed to say this:
The 'Lord' turned on me
from,
AMC
Comment posted by Austin at 6/04/2005 11:03 AM (Permalink)
Hello,
I was listening to Empty sPaces by pink floyed backwards and the Last worfd Chalfont* is really a place in Pennsylvania. Just to let u know. and is there a funny farm in Chalfont, that is something else i want to know
Thank you
I was listening to Empty sPaces by pink floyed backwards and the Last worfd Chalfont* is really a place in Pennsylvania. Just to let u know. and is there a funny farm in Chalfont, that is something else i want to know
Thank you
Comment posted by funnyguy12 at 6/12/2005 2:15 PM (Permalink)
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Comment posted by funnyguy12 at 6/12/2005 2:16 PM (Permalink)
Jeff is a cool guy, he does cool shit... Good job jeff, keep up the good work... to all you other F-bags, get off you're ass and do something with your life.
Comment posted by SGstandard88 at 6/18/2005 2:13 AM (Permalink)
Hey, Jeff- you're a cool guy, keep up the good work. To all you other F-bags... get off your asses and do something with your lives.
Comment posted by SGstandard88 at 6/18/2005 2:13 AM (Permalink)
Firstly....I think Led zeppelin didnt want to tell the world "what" they wanted to say backwards....If they did then why reverse it???Secondly,its too much to not be a coincidence...maybe they wanted to send secret messages to someone who we don't know....not only that as a precaution maybe there is a secret message hidden inside the reverse lyrics too...whi knows??
It requires GENIUS to write a song like that...take a bow Robert Plant...He also mentioned that when he started writing the song the pen didn't stop.....he kept moving it.
Satanic or unaware satanic influence????
This is the main quetion to answer....was Plant intentional or unknowingly under the influence???
BUT THERE IS NO WAY THIS IS A COINCIDENCE.....NO!!!
It requires GENIUS to write a song like that...take a bow Robert Plant...He also mentioned that when he started writing the song the pen didn't stop.....he kept moving it.
Satanic or unaware satanic influence????
This is the main quetion to answer....was Plant intentional or unknowingly under the influence???
BUT THERE IS NO WAY THIS IS A COINCIDENCE.....NO!!!
Comment posted by The Red Devil at 7/03/2005 5:35 AM (Permalink)
YAY i finaly found a site that believes me :D, ive been saying this stuff for ages, and i have more songs that you can check out too, i recently got a new profesianal DJ CD player and i can play CD's backwards, so i was experamenting with all my mums old CDs, and i heard about the Marijuana thing in the queens album, so i played the whole album from finish to start and i found that almost every song has stuff about taking drugs in it, dont listen to me find out yourself...the albums called: Queens Greatest Hits
Comment posted by Anon at 8/04/2005 5:09 PM (Permalink)
Jeff and others,
While some of the reverse recordings are obviously just that, I have conducted a simple test that anyone else should be able to duplicate. I recorded my own voice singing the lyrics to Stairway to Heaven and then reversed the recording.
Looking at the reverse lyrics and listening to my reversed recording, would make it appear that I am possessed – or at least that I was back talking. Actually, I beleive it is just the coincidence that the phonetics of these lyrics sung and then played backwards suggests the satanic message. Although, without the lyrics, neither the Led Zeppelin version nor mine sound very satanic.
Of course this does not dispel the notion that Robert Plant may have been possessed at the time he wrote this song and that this possession had the intelligence to drive Robert Plant to compose a song that sung backwards would have this effect.
Thanks for your site.
While some of the reverse recordings are obviously just that, I have conducted a simple test that anyone else should be able to duplicate. I recorded my own voice singing the lyrics to Stairway to Heaven and then reversed the recording.
Looking at the reverse lyrics and listening to my reversed recording, would make it appear that I am possessed – or at least that I was back talking. Actually, I beleive it is just the coincidence that the phonetics of these lyrics sung and then played backwards suggests the satanic message. Although, without the lyrics, neither the Led Zeppelin version nor mine sound very satanic.
Of course this does not dispel the notion that Robert Plant may have been possessed at the time he wrote this song and that this possession had the intelligence to drive Robert Plant to compose a song that sung backwards would have this effect.
Thanks for your site.
Comment posted by TheUltimateAnswer42 at 8/12/2005 12:16 AM (Permalink)
To teh guy who posted b4 me,
its not just tehlyrcis that make it sound that way, its teh guitaring and all teh instruments that make teh complete sound. so if u really wanna test this u have to have a band with you playing the same song, Plus he sings it differently then you. his voice would also help teh creation of the messages
its not just tehlyrcis that make it sound that way, its teh guitaring and all teh instruments that make teh complete sound. so if u really wanna test this u have to have a band with you playing the same song, Plus he sings it differently then you. his voice would also help teh creation of the messages
Comment posted by kyr0 at 8/19/2005 2:43 PM (Permalink)
To the guy who posted b4 me,
its not just tehlyrcis that make it sound that way, its teh guitaring and all teh instruments that make teh complete sound. so if u really wanna test this u have to have a band with you playing the same song, Plus he sings it differently then you. his voice would also help teh creation of the messages
its not just tehlyrcis that make it sound that way, its teh guitaring and all teh instruments that make teh complete sound. so if u really wanna test this u have to have a band with you playing the same song, Plus he sings it differently then you. his voice would also help teh creation of the messages
Comment posted by kyr0 at 8/19/2005 2:44 PM (Permalink)
I found something pretty neat. The human brain apparently not only understands backwards messages, but places them in everyday speech. You all do it, believe me.
https://www.reversespeech.com
https://www.reversespeech.com
Comment posted by Hyper at 8/19/2005 3:14 PM (Permalink)
ok, im sorry to offend anybody, but ive read the whole list of posts (im really bored, lol) and i cant believe how pathetic some people are... stairway to heaven played backwards is a total coincedence. even if it was intentional it was totally for fun. QUIT FREAKING OUT!!! sereously
Comment posted by really bored at 8/23/2005 9:24 PM (Permalink)
Seriously people, it's not like Led Zeppelin is Slipknot from the past, they don't dress up in masks and outfits and shit like that. Now I do like both bands, they are my favorites, and rock is the only music I listen to. Rap, hip-hop, and all that gay fuck music is overrated. Did Led Zeppelin state that they get high on drugs, go to clubs, rape women, and shoot and kill people for their "homies"? No, it was just their beleifs, in reverse. You people are allowed to state your beleifs aren't you? Why not them. Does the fact they are rock stars single them out and they aren't allowed to say they are satanists? This news, no matter how it echoes in my head, does not stop me from listening to Zep. And if it does to you people, makes you stop listening to them, grow up you morons
Comment posted by Derek at 8/25/2005 10:15 AM (Permalink)
whew, I barely made it down here. some people had some pretty good points. Since I am now looking at this threw rose colored lenses now I will do an experiment.
1. I will let ten people listen to my version which is the "If there's a bustle" verse reversed and slowed down slightly.
2. The ten will have no knowlege of this except that mabey they heard someone say it said something backwards once.
3. I will ask them each to write what they hear. then I will compair their answers to these lyrics (which seems to be the concensus)
"Oh, here's to my sweet satan. The one whose little path would make me sad. Whos power is satan.He'll give those with him 666. There was a little toolshed where he made us suffer, sad satan.
A word for word match up of around 90-95 percent would be optimal but my guess is around 3-10 percent. considering the first couple of times I heard it were without the lyrics. I was like "that kinda sounded like satan but the rest are not real words"
personally to me the toolshed bit is a far stretch and the second and third "satan"s are actually like that guy said before "sey" and your mind fills in the rest.
btw "stairwaytoheaven" if you are a member of the band I want you to know that I trust you that you didn't do this on purpose. and also you guys ROCK SO MUCH @SS!!!!
1. I will let ten people listen to my version which is the "If there's a bustle" verse reversed and slowed down slightly.
2. The ten will have no knowlege of this except that mabey they heard someone say it said something backwards once.
3. I will ask them each to write what they hear. then I will compair their answers to these lyrics (which seems to be the concensus)
"Oh, here's to my sweet satan. The one whose little path would make me sad. Whos power is satan.He'll give those with him 666. There was a little toolshed where he made us suffer, sad satan.
A word for word match up of around 90-95 percent would be optimal but my guess is around 3-10 percent. considering the first couple of times I heard it were without the lyrics. I was like "that kinda sounded like satan but the rest are not real words"
personally to me the toolshed bit is a far stretch and the second and third "satan"s are actually like that guy said before "sey" and your mind fills in the rest.
btw "stairwaytoheaven" if you are a member of the band I want you to know that I trust you that you didn't do this on purpose. and also you guys ROCK SO MUCH @SS!!!!
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Comment posted by David at 9/08/2005 2:53 AM (Permalink)
Okay guys, this has clearly gotten out of control. There is no possible way to write a song this long that makes sense forwards and backwards. Not without years of work and a degree in math and music.
The song while clearly understandable in the front-wards version (more understandable than most songs). Is very difficult to understand when played backwards. I couldn't hear even the clearest backwards lyrics (the "If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't be alarmed now") until I read them, so it clearly is just the mind making connections.
"Led Zeppelin", is not satanic. They have an intrest in the occult yes, this is where the odd lyrics come from (a book on Irish Mythology I believe). But they don't seem to have an intrest in the evil of occult. This is shown by their references to "Lord of the Rings" a true satanist would likely consider this not to be a good source of occult magic, I think ;).
I severly doubt that these backward messages are anything but an extremely unlikely co-incidence. These do happen, and most of the population believe in evolution (which is way the hell more unlikely than this).
Someone said that they stopped listening to Led Zeppelin because of these "messages". That is sheer folly... come on... maybe if an actual study had been done and the band admitted to Satanism. But they deny this heartfeltly... Why put it in a song publicly and then bother to deny?
Finally, concerning one "Faithful Servant", you seem to be the reason that people don't like Christians. Christians are supposed to be helpers and teachers that bring the word of God to others and help all independant of their beliefs. You sound like the hate mongering Catholic church of the 14th(?) century that started the spanish inquisition, and burned witches. You are likely closer to Satan than you would ever believe (definatly closer than Led Zeppelin).
The song while clearly understandable in the front-wards version (more understandable than most songs). Is very difficult to understand when played backwards. I couldn't hear even the clearest backwards lyrics (the "If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't be alarmed now") until I read them, so it clearly is just the mind making connections.
"Led Zeppelin", is not satanic. They have an intrest in the occult yes, this is where the odd lyrics come from (a book on Irish Mythology I believe). But they don't seem to have an intrest in the evil of occult. This is shown by their references to "Lord of the Rings" a true satanist would likely consider this not to be a good source of occult magic, I think ;).
I severly doubt that these backward messages are anything but an extremely unlikely co-incidence. These do happen, and most of the population believe in evolution (which is way the hell more unlikely than this).
Someone said that they stopped listening to Led Zeppelin because of these "messages". That is sheer folly... come on... maybe if an actual study had been done and the band admitted to Satanism. But they deny this heartfeltly... Why put it in a song publicly and then bother to deny?
Finally, concerning one "Faithful Servant", you seem to be the reason that people don't like Christians. Christians are supposed to be helpers and teachers that bring the word of God to others and help all independant of their beliefs. You sound like the hate mongering Catholic church of the 14th(?) century that started the spanish inquisition, and burned witches. You are likely closer to Satan than you would ever believe (definatly closer than Led Zeppelin).
Comment posted by Hopefully This Ends It at 9/25/2005 2:36 PM (Permalink)
okay. i think that satin is just trying to get into our heads, and trying to make people worship him by making songs and other things 'satanic' backwards. don't believe it, and don't listen to it. satin wants us all to belive in him, don't give him the satisfaction of knowing you are, or you are listening to him. as humans he knows we are stupid. and we are. and he tries his best tp get us all.
don't give in.
i do not believe in religion, because i think it seperates all of us, instead i believe in God. i think that when in the bible it says that after a thousand years the devil will rule the world (for a short while).. well.. maybe it's right now :S. because look at what has become of our world? most of us are tools of violence and destruction. and every day there are horrible things on the news. it disgusts me to know that my brothers and sisters here on earth can be so destructive.
and the HONEST truth is that if we ALL just listened to the 10 commandments... this world would be perfect and everyone in it would enjoy it, and there would be no bad.
but ofcourse.. this world cannot be like that. because that, is heaven.
God bless you all,
-catherine
don't give in.
i do not believe in religion, because i think it seperates all of us, instead i believe in God. i think that when in the bible it says that after a thousand years the devil will rule the world (for a short while).. well.. maybe it's right now :S. because look at what has become of our world? most of us are tools of violence and destruction. and every day there are horrible things on the news. it disgusts me to know that my brothers and sisters here on earth can be so destructive.
and the HONEST truth is that if we ALL just listened to the 10 commandments... this world would be perfect and everyone in it would enjoy it, and there would be no bad.
but ofcourse.. this world cannot be like that. because that, is heaven.
God bless you all,
-catherine
Comment posted by catherine at 9/29/2005 3:17 PM (Permalink)
OH MY GOD!
A band recorded a song that was really popular and if you play it backwards you can sometimes make yourself believe you hear the word "satan". This is sure the sign of the end of our times. My generation is doomed! Satan is taking over the world through classic '70's rock and roll!
Get over it people. It's not that big a deal.
A band recorded a song that was really popular and if you play it backwards you can sometimes make yourself believe you hear the word "satan". This is sure the sign of the end of our times. My generation is doomed! Satan is taking over the world through classic '70's rock and roll!
Get over it people. It's not that big a deal.
Comment posted by Terry at 10/06/2005 5:18 PM (Permalink)
Wow. Reading all this really bugs me.
I didn't sleep too well last night. No lie. But because I'm young, probably the youngest person here, it's obvious I wouldn't be able to get the idea out of my mind.
Hmm... Well. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not a hardcore Led Zeppelin fan. I don't even know why I got so into this song. But, I heard so much of the famous "Stairway to Heaven" song and my dad playing it at random on his guitar. I love music, especially rock. So, I heard it one day on the radio, didn't remember any of the lyrics but liked it. So I went out and got the song from someone and listened to it. Over and over again.
I loved this song so much. It was mind-blowing to me. I don't know why. But the feeling you get from it, is a soft, nice, happy feeling. I thought I had an idea of the lyrics, what they meant I mean. I had this song in my head for... wow I don't know how long.
I read somewhere when you play it backwards it's got satanic messages. I'm a believer in God, I go to church, and I try to follow him. But I since I'm a lost kid, I don't have a very very strong faith, sadly. But, of course I don't worship satan. Anyways, I listened to just a portion of the song backwards. It freaked me out. Seriously.
Reasons why 1.)How would... or could... someone make two songs in one basically, one played backwards, one forwards... how long could that take, what kind of person does that? 2.)What does it mean? Is it like some kind of joyous song to satan in it's entirety? 3.)I thought about it for a long while. I just thought maybe listening to the song was a sin after a while. But, I don't think it is. I definatly don't worship satan, I'm a confused person but.. no I don't worship satan. Anyways, the song could just exemplify just religion. The song mentions "two" alot. Two choices. The only choices are two. One way, the song seems to kind of... be joyous, speaking of God and great things. Or at least that's how I heard it. I'm not lying though, the piper, heaven, the may queen, reason, "changing the road your on" meaning being saved maybe. The piper seemed alot like God, or something along those lines. And the other way sounded like worshiping satan, the song except reversed, completely backwards. So, the song is almost like... life. We can go two ways. It doesn't say which way is right though really, except in the real version, "The piper will lead us to reason." But somehow, the tone you listen to the song changes the meaning completely. I feel they are referring to satan when I listened to the song backwards, but if I never knew that, the song forwards would be referring to God. The backwards way just says what the writer of the song feels it seems, that satan is who he worships, I assume. It's too hard for me to understand it backwards though.
So, it's almost like telling us what afterlife we might have in a song based on our lives here. Both seem to bother me. I don't know why. I just get so lost in both.
Whatever this song means it's obviously truly an... amazing piece of work. Bad or good.
I know I will be thinking about this for forever... and I might not ever figure it out.
Maybe I am completely wrong about everything I wrote, but don't yap me. I'm only fourteen. I'm not smart enough to interpret this kinda stuff. I just needed to post my interest in this song.. you know, how weird it is...
I didn't sleep too well last night. No lie. But because I'm young, probably the youngest person here, it's obvious I wouldn't be able to get the idea out of my mind.
Hmm... Well. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not a hardcore Led Zeppelin fan. I don't even know why I got so into this song. But, I heard so much of the famous "Stairway to Heaven" song and my dad playing it at random on his guitar. I love music, especially rock. So, I heard it one day on the radio, didn't remember any of the lyrics but liked it. So I went out and got the song from someone and listened to it. Over and over again.
I loved this song so much. It was mind-blowing to me. I don't know why. But the feeling you get from it, is a soft, nice, happy feeling. I thought I had an idea of the lyrics, what they meant I mean. I had this song in my head for... wow I don't know how long.
I read somewhere when you play it backwards it's got satanic messages. I'm a believer in God, I go to church, and I try to follow him. But I since I'm a lost kid, I don't have a very very strong faith, sadly. But, of course I don't worship satan. Anyways, I listened to just a portion of the song backwards. It freaked me out. Seriously.
Reasons why 1.)How would... or could... someone make two songs in one basically, one played backwards, one forwards... how long could that take, what kind of person does that? 2.)What does it mean? Is it like some kind of joyous song to satan in it's entirety? 3.)I thought about it for a long while. I just thought maybe listening to the song was a sin after a while. But, I don't think it is. I definatly don't worship satan, I'm a confused person but.. no I don't worship satan. Anyways, the song could just exemplify just religion. The song mentions "two" alot. Two choices. The only choices are two. One way, the song seems to kind of... be joyous, speaking of God and great things. Or at least that's how I heard it. I'm not lying though, the piper, heaven, the may queen, reason, "changing the road your on" meaning being saved maybe. The piper seemed alot like God, or something along those lines. And the other way sounded like worshiping satan, the song except reversed, completely backwards. So, the song is almost like... life. We can go two ways. It doesn't say which way is right though really, except in the real version, "The piper will lead us to reason." But somehow, the tone you listen to the song changes the meaning completely. I feel they are referring to satan when I listened to the song backwards, but if I never knew that, the song forwards would be referring to God. The backwards way just says what the writer of the song feels it seems, that satan is who he worships, I assume. It's too hard for me to understand it backwards though.
So, it's almost like telling us what afterlife we might have in a song based on our lives here. Both seem to bother me. I don't know why. I just get so lost in both.
Whatever this song means it's obviously truly an... amazing piece of work. Bad or good.
I know I will be thinking about this for forever... and I might not ever figure it out.
Maybe I am completely wrong about everything I wrote, but don't yap me. I'm only fourteen. I'm not smart enough to interpret this kinda stuff. I just needed to post my interest in this song.. you know, how weird it is...
Comment posted by jessi at 10/12/2005 3:53 PM (Permalink)
first of all dont be morans and learn how to spell LED ZEPPELIN idots and second of all your ruining a good song by spreading this satan crap if the song is titled stairway to heaven i dont think it would have a stantic message on purpose and leave led zeppelin alone dont spread this crap their the best band there was and will be dont fuck with a good thing and stop spreading this crap
Comment posted by random at 10/26/2005 9:16 PM (Permalink)
Backwards or not, the solo is still great! I listened to it without the lyrics and could hear nothing, but witht he lyrics I could hear every word previously posted.
These are not concrete lyrics. I am quite sure if I changed the supposed backwards lyrics I could make you all think the song had nothing to do with satanism. It's a matter of perception.
Neat though.
These are not concrete lyrics. I am quite sure if I changed the supposed backwards lyrics I could make you all think the song had nothing to do with satanism. It's a matter of perception.
Neat though.
Comment posted by Lizzardoe at 10/27/2005 6:53 AM (Permalink)
random, you obviously don't understand how satan works. He is a deciever. He made the song SEEM good and Heavenly, but if you knew your Bible you'd realise that even the forwards lyrics are Satanic. The piper the lyrics are speaking of is told of in the bible, he is satan trying to imitate Christ and lead them away from true salvation.
And you fell for it.
And you fell for it.
Comment posted by Tony at 10/27/2005 1:26 PM (Permalink)
The point is that even if he could not have intentionally, conciously written the lyrics to be reversed, the fact remains that he was on drugs, and drugs can cause some weird things to happen. I was put on ADD meds once, and after about a month of taking them I actually had premonitions in my dreams! It was a whole school day, everyone was wearing the exact same clothes in the dream, saying the exact same words, writing and doing the exact same things as the day it all actually happened! 700+ people! NOT A COINCIDENCE! I even saw things that my physical body couldn't have seen because I was on a different floor of the building than where they occured, and I later asked people to confirm what I saw and found out that they actually happened!
Satan is way more intelligent and powerful than we as humans can ever comprehend, he may have very well used Page's drugged up state to posess and influence Page to write those lyrics.
Or, if you want to look at it from an atheistic scientific standpoint, it could've been his subconcious beliefs creeping through in what he writes. Try it yourself, write something when you're feeling very emotional then record it out loud and reverse it-you'll hear what you were emotional about. I do it all the time. I remember hearing that Page felt sick and was in a bad mood when he wrote the lyrics, so that could help explain it.
Satan is way more intelligent and powerful than we as humans can ever comprehend, he may have very well used Page's drugged up state to posess and influence Page to write those lyrics.
Or, if you want to look at it from an atheistic scientific standpoint, it could've been his subconcious beliefs creeping through in what he writes. Try it yourself, write something when you're feeling very emotional then record it out loud and reverse it-you'll hear what you were emotional about. I do it all the time. I remember hearing that Page felt sick and was in a bad mood when he wrote the lyrics, so that could help explain it.
Comment posted by Tony at 10/27/2005 1:56 PM (Permalink)
hey tony fuck you its a kick ass song and stop spreading this satan crap!!!
Comment posted by random at 10/27/2005 2:31 PM (Permalink)
First of all, Led Zeppelin is no more of a man than Wal-Mart is a wall. It is a band which consists of Robert Plant, Jimmy Page, John Paul Jones, and the late, great John Bonham. Secondly, the "satanist" member of the band is Jimmy Page. He has studied the work of Alister Crowley, a dabbler in the occult and black magik (not magic). His interest in this subject does not mean he worships Satan. Third, do you have any idea how complicated it would be to make a satanic message in reverse not sound like jibberish. The band was brilliant, and even if they did attempt this, why not make cohesive lyrics which make some sense? The "satanic messages" are clearly coincidence. Plus, the mind would never be able to interpret this message backwards from listening to the recorded version. You're theory holds no water.
Comment posted by metcalfe at 10/27/2005 5:49 PM (Permalink)
Random, I don't mind that you like the song, you can continue to listen to and enjoy it all you want. It's a good, clever song.
But I did give you more than just that "Satan crap" as a possible explanation.
I have found another song like this that becomes a whole new song in reverse-Marilyn Manson's "Doll Dagga Buzz Buzz" on their album The Golden Age of Grotesque. That was just clever songwriting though, and it shows because the forewards lyrics are nowhere near as coherent as the backwards lyrics.
But, really, none of us really know if our minds perceive these things or not. The whole point of subliminal messages is to get into your subconcious, not your concious, where you would notice it. You need to slow down or speed up the song in reverse and have an extremely open mind about it's supposed content. You may even need to read someone else translation while listening. Usually I can find them on my own, that's how I've found so many on the "Other songs with backmasking" section.
Test my findings, record what I say the songs say in reverse and play that in reverse. It should match up with the original lyrics pretty closely, it's rarely ever a perfect match though. You may doubt the existence of the subliminal messages, but I don't.
That is where we differ.
But I did give you more than just that "Satan crap" as a possible explanation.
I have found another song like this that becomes a whole new song in reverse-Marilyn Manson's "Doll Dagga Buzz Buzz" on their album The Golden Age of Grotesque. That was just clever songwriting though, and it shows because the forewards lyrics are nowhere near as coherent as the backwards lyrics.
But, really, none of us really know if our minds perceive these things or not. The whole point of subliminal messages is to get into your subconcious, not your concious, where you would notice it. You need to slow down or speed up the song in reverse and have an extremely open mind about it's supposed content. You may even need to read someone else translation while listening. Usually I can find them on my own, that's how I've found so many on the "Other songs with backmasking" section.
Test my findings, record what I say the songs say in reverse and play that in reverse. It should match up with the original lyrics pretty closely, it's rarely ever a perfect match though. You may doubt the existence of the subliminal messages, but I don't.
That is where we differ.
Comment posted by Tony at 10/27/2005 6:22 PM (Permalink)
yah , i like it and all , but add the hole song to your website! it will give me nightmares! dude you made an awesome sight , my friend was so freaked he clicked x! whoa you rock! stairway to hell ? lol
Comment posted by Anonymous at 10/27/2005 8:01 PM (Permalink)
hey tony dont be a pussy and say what you want to say dumbass and dont spread this satan crap about led zeppelin
Comment posted by random at 10/27/2005 8:53 PM (Permalink)
Should I mention that in the eyes of devout Christians all occult activity, whether it be white or black magik, false religion, and so on is evil and demonic. Even in the Bible it states:
Deuteronomy 18:
10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
I must be honest, I am a bit of a hypocrite, I still listen to music that some call evil and demonic, and honestly, it probably is. Unfortunately I was raised on the likes of Marilyn Manson and such, so it's a miracle I even believe in God, nonetheless worship him, but I am struggling with my temptations right now.
Deuteronomy 18:
10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
I must be honest, I am a bit of a hypocrite, I still listen to music that some call evil and demonic, and honestly, it probably is. Unfortunately I was raised on the likes of Marilyn Manson and such, so it's a miracle I even believe in God, nonetheless worship him, but I am struggling with my temptations right now.
Comment posted by Tony at 10/28/2005 12:57 PM (Permalink)
And another comment, did you not read my whole post metcalfe? I mentioned Page quite a few times.
Comment posted by Tony at 10/28/2005 1:06 PM (Permalink)
IT IS ALL THE POWER OF SUGGESTION!!!!!!!
even the guy who gave the whole reversed lyrics said they needed lyrics to hear it and if you hear/see something enough you will beleive that to be it!
i can kinda hear satan when i play it reversed, but after i read the reversed lyrics only then can i hear the other stuff.
so i think some one was just sleepy and wanted to hear something and thats how he got thoose lyrics
even the guy who gave the whole reversed lyrics said they needed lyrics to hear it and if you hear/see something enough you will beleive that to be it!
i can kinda hear satan when i play it reversed, but after i read the reversed lyrics only then can i hear the other stuff.
so i think some one was just sleepy and wanted to hear something and thats how he got thoose lyrics
Comment posted by SmurfOfDOOM at 11/01/2005 2:57 PM (Permalink)
Unless the person who found the lyrics to the whole Stairway to Heaven song in reverse was either a Satanist or knew quite a bit about their beliefs he wouldn't have been able to "suggest" to himself that lines like "Thoth have our laws" and "Maat must be superb" were in there, because those are things that Satanists/Ancient Egyptians actually believe in.
"Thoth is an unusual god. Though some stories place him as a son of Ra, others say that Thoth created himself through the power of language. He is the creator of magic, the inventor of writing, teacher of man, the messenger of the gods (and thus identified by the Greeks with Hermes) and the divine record-keeper and mediator.
Thoth's role as mediator is well-documented. It is he who questions the souls of the dead about their deeds in life before their heart is weighed against the feather of Maat.
Maat was the personification of the fundamental order of the universe, without which all of creation would perish. The primary duty of the pharaoh was to uphold this order by maintaining the law and administering justice. To reflect this, many pharaohs took the title "Beloved of Maat," emphasizing their focus on justice and truth. At any event in which something would be judged, Maat was said to be present, and her name would be invoked so that the judge involved would rule correctly and impartially. In the underworld, the heart of the deceased was weighed by Anubis against Maat's feather. If the heart was heavy with wicked deeds, it would outweigh the feather, and the soul would be fed to Ammit. But if the scales were balanced, indicating that the deceased was a just and honorable person in life, he would be welcomed by Osiris into the Blessed Land. Maat's presence in all worlds was universal, and all the gods deferred to her."
(in quotes taken from)https://touregypt.net/godsofegypt/
Satanists believe that the Egyptian sun-god Ra was actually Satan himself, so that's why they follow Thoth's laws, and use the Ankh and obelisk, which represent Ra, as their own. The Bible even refers to Satan as the "son of the dawn" or the angel of the sun.
Go to churchofsatan.org and look for Ra,Thoth and Maat.
And BTW, I'm not a Satanist, I'm a Christian. But I personally believe that a Christian should know every side of the world's religions so they understand what's going on and can avoid things that they shouldn't be involved with, because if you look at all the religions in this world, they're all are connected in one way or another. Most ancient religions worship either sun gods, serpents, flying serpents, or dragons. All of which (at least according to Christianity) represent Satan.
"Thoth is an unusual god. Though some stories place him as a son of Ra, others say that Thoth created himself through the power of language. He is the creator of magic, the inventor of writing, teacher of man, the messenger of the gods (and thus identified by the Greeks with Hermes) and the divine record-keeper and mediator.
Thoth's role as mediator is well-documented. It is he who questions the souls of the dead about their deeds in life before their heart is weighed against the feather of Maat.
Maat was the personification of the fundamental order of the universe, without which all of creation would perish. The primary duty of the pharaoh was to uphold this order by maintaining the law and administering justice. To reflect this, many pharaohs took the title "Beloved of Maat," emphasizing their focus on justice and truth. At any event in which something would be judged, Maat was said to be present, and her name would be invoked so that the judge involved would rule correctly and impartially. In the underworld, the heart of the deceased was weighed by Anubis against Maat's feather. If the heart was heavy with wicked deeds, it would outweigh the feather, and the soul would be fed to Ammit. But if the scales were balanced, indicating that the deceased was a just and honorable person in life, he would be welcomed by Osiris into the Blessed Land. Maat's presence in all worlds was universal, and all the gods deferred to her."
(in quotes taken from)https://touregypt.net/godsofegypt/
Satanists believe that the Egyptian sun-god Ra was actually Satan himself, so that's why they follow Thoth's laws, and use the Ankh and obelisk, which represent Ra, as their own. The Bible even refers to Satan as the "son of the dawn" or the angel of the sun.
Go to churchofsatan.org and look for Ra,Thoth and Maat.
And BTW, I'm not a Satanist, I'm a Christian. But I personally believe that a Christian should know every side of the world's religions so they understand what's going on and can avoid things that they shouldn't be involved with, because if you look at all the religions in this world, they're all are connected in one way or another. Most ancient religions worship either sun gods, serpents, flying serpents, or dragons. All of which (at least according to Christianity) represent Satan.
Comment posted by Tony at 11/04/2005 4:52 PM (Permalink)
Okay, this much is certain. Jimmy Page was into black magic and devil worship. A reference to 666 is hidden in the ZoSo symbol, and at one point he even bought Aliester Crowley's old mansion. On the other hand, Robert Plant was a practising Christian. As for the reverse lyrics themselves. Some of it is fairly clear but it sounds like most of those words are pretty inaccurate. Led Zeppelin were not evil and nor is Stairway to Heaven. If anybody bothered to listen to Stairway the right way, forward, they would see that its not evil at all, in fact it has reference to 'a new day dawning', a reference to the coming Age of Aquarius that was popular in the 60s. Most people turn to devil worship in todays society because it is promoted so much by the debauched media, and is wrongly viewed as an alternative to the stubborn, narrow minded, dogmatic practises of the church. And the Egyptian gods were not evil or demonic! The Egyptian god of evil was Set, NOT Ra, or Thoth, or Ma'at! Just because the Egyptian culture or any other ancient civilisation is alien to us, it doesnt mean they are evil, or in any way inferior compared to us. Satanists who say Ra is Satan don't know what they're talking about! Okay, I'll admit, the lyrics for the 'bustle in your hedgerow' segment are pretty clear, and there may well be some supernatural force behind it, but we are sentient beings of flesh and blood. Who are we to judge the unseen realm? It may also be a strange coincidence. The truth is well never really know, and no scientific equation, nor fundamentalist Bible passage can change that. I think people are taking this too seriously. If you want signs that we are living through some kind of Armageddon, just look at the ravaged state the world is in at the moment.
Comment posted by The Piper at 11/10/2005 6:42 AM (Permalink)
Okay. If I put my theory here, I am sure everyone will say, Oh no! You're wrong, but here it is anyway...
The Song is a Balance, Its both Satanic and Godly. Its both Good and Evil. It is Yin and Yang. Forwards its good, backwards evil... Or not evil. It doesn't seem evil. It seems creepy and interesting.
The fact stands at this and I am surprised that no-one has realized this.
The Believers will believe. The Skeptics won't. Those who are neutral may or may not believe. All that I know, is what I feel.
I know it is creepy, and the person who put it best was at the beginning, "I hear it tells me what to buy at the Grocery store..." Its all a matter of how you look at it.
The Song is a Balance, Its both Satanic and Godly. Its both Good and Evil. It is Yin and Yang. Forwards its good, backwards evil... Or not evil. It doesn't seem evil. It seems creepy and interesting.
The fact stands at this and I am surprised that no-one has realized this.
The Believers will believe. The Skeptics won't. Those who are neutral may or may not believe. All that I know, is what I feel.
I know it is creepy, and the person who put it best was at the beginning, "I hear it tells me what to buy at the Grocery store..." Its all a matter of how you look at it.
Comment posted by WhipporwillHeretic at 11/10/2005 7:26 PM (Permalink)
Bullshit!It doesnt look like it is a coincidence but the led is not satanic!! it never showed any hint of it and never acted towards Satan!
I admit the reverse lyrics are impreshionable... but just a coincidence...
I admit the reverse lyrics are impreshionable... but just a coincidence...
Comment posted by pevainer at 11/14/2005 6:46 PM (Permalink)
NO WAY!
Led Zeppelin is in no way and has never acted in any way to Satan's... probably just a really impressive coincidence
Led Zeppelin is in no way and has never acted in any way to Satan's... probably just a really impressive coincidence
Comment posted by pevainer at 11/14/2005 6:47 PM (Permalink)
This time, read again, using your active reading skills.
My original take on the song was he was speaking against Satan backwards. But read the lyrics.
Its definitely not holy. Its quite a heretic view. Even more so than my view on the modern day church.
Anyways, I'm not saying forward is the most holy either, but it defenatly makes you think.
My original take on the song was he was speaking against Satan backwards. But read the lyrics.
Its definitely not holy. Its quite a heretic view. Even more so than my view on the modern day church.
Anyways, I'm not saying forward is the most holy either, but it defenatly makes you think.
Comment posted by WhipporwillHeretic at 11/15/2005 5:10 AM (Permalink)
So I read the post and all the comments. I have some comments of my own:
On the main subject:
It's plausible, indeed. But bear in mind that Led Zeppelin has stated that they NEVER had something like this in mind when writing the song. Of course, you could say that they are Satanists and Satan is Father of Lies and they therefor lie, but I doubt it.
I am one of those who think that if you hear it backwards and read the "backwards" lyrics at the same time, you could easy agree with the backwards lyrics. I tried just listening, without reading, but then it became more fuzzy. It seemed as I could interpret the word "Satan" but that could also because I was searching for the word. The mind of man does curious things.
On a more general account, people must stop believing what they read on the Internet. Not everything is true. I'm not saying this is a hoax, this very thing about Led Zeppelin might be true, I in fact think it is very intrigueing to think that they made a song that makes two opposite meanings forwards and backwards.
Another thing, which goes to the discussion about the "666" issue:
666 is the "number of the beast", true. But on more general numerology, it is in fact 6 that is the devil's number. 7 is the number of God, 5 is the number of man. But as said in the Bible, 666 shall be the mark of the devil, branding him and his followers.
(a remark on the side: If you look at a pentagram, how many different polygons does it consist of? 6. One pentagon and 5 triangles. A pentagon has 5 sides. This would imply that Satan is just a derivative of the mind of man)
(for those who don't know, a pentagram is the star that is said to be one of the Satanic symbols. It however needs to be put with one triangle pointing directly downwards and a circle around it to be Satanic at all. No, I'm not a satanist)
On the main subject:
It's plausible, indeed. But bear in mind that Led Zeppelin has stated that they NEVER had something like this in mind when writing the song. Of course, you could say that they are Satanists and Satan is Father of Lies and they therefor lie, but I doubt it.
I am one of those who think that if you hear it backwards and read the "backwards" lyrics at the same time, you could easy agree with the backwards lyrics. I tried just listening, without reading, but then it became more fuzzy. It seemed as I could interpret the word "Satan" but that could also because I was searching for the word. The mind of man does curious things.
On a more general account, people must stop believing what they read on the Internet. Not everything is true. I'm not saying this is a hoax, this very thing about Led Zeppelin might be true, I in fact think it is very intrigueing to think that they made a song that makes two opposite meanings forwards and backwards.
Another thing, which goes to the discussion about the "666" issue:
666 is the "number of the beast", true. But on more general numerology, it is in fact 6 that is the devil's number. 7 is the number of God, 5 is the number of man. But as said in the Bible, 666 shall be the mark of the devil, branding him and his followers.
(a remark on the side: If you look at a pentagram, how many different polygons does it consist of? 6. One pentagon and 5 triangles. A pentagon has 5 sides. This would imply that Satan is just a derivative of the mind of man)
(for those who don't know, a pentagram is the star that is said to be one of the Satanic symbols. It however needs to be put with one triangle pointing directly downwards and a circle around it to be Satanic at all. No, I'm not a satanist)
Comment posted by Leo Khenir at 11/20/2005 12:07 PM (Permalink)
Hear-Hear. I learned something. Nice post. I never knew the numbering of Man was 5. And I didn't know that about the pentagram. Huttah.
Comment posted by WhipporwillHeretic at 11/21/2005 12:30 PM (Permalink)
First off I would like to say that I have tried listening to Stairway to heaven backwards. I have listened to it on 228Kbs, 128Kbs (CD), and vinyl. Yes, even vinyl, I have every Zep album except I and II. After listening many times without the lyrics in front of me, I have come to the conclusion that about maybe 20-30 words are completely recognizable out of, say, 350 or so? I heard words like "Satan" because I was listening for it. So after listening to it on three different audio qualities, I pulled out the lyrics again (I read them once before listening to the song, so I knew somewhat of what to listen for. I also already had been to the backmasking flash on this site.). This time, I noticed some more words and put together what before sounded like gibberish. This is in a way like an optical illusion, perhaps, it is a mind trick. When you put the "lyrics" of "Stairway to Hell" (which contains no relevancy of the backwards lyrics)in front of you and listen again, you hear the words (some of them). I'd like to point out that "Plaaaay backwards" doesn't sound like that at all, and neither do half the words. It all sounds skippy and not put together.
k.seijas (the author of this) seems to think that "EVERY word from start to finish is undeniable and distinguishable." Really k.seijas? Well according to you, that's only "Easily heard if you know what to look for." Distinguishable is only real if you can hear it without a doubt. This means, you don't need to be looking for something. You hear the song backwards and you hear the "message".
And most people who are against this say it's a coincidence. Well it really isn't even that. It's way to skippy and not recognizable to even be a coincidence! Even Plant said that "it's not my idea of making music". Led Zeppelin was, without a doubt, THE greatest rock band of all time (up there with Pink Floyd). I HIGHLY doubt that this "message" is here on purpose. It sounds nothing like those lyrics that don't make sense anyways. (oppositioner is NOT a word.)
This all started by a bunch of teens in the 70s anyway. Just get over it, IT IS NOT REAL. Yeah it's fun to think about but c'mon, grow up.
Brian [allstarbdt7@yahoo.com]
k.seijas (the author of this) seems to think that "EVERY word from start to finish is undeniable and distinguishable." Really k.seijas? Well according to you, that's only "Easily heard if you know what to look for." Distinguishable is only real if you can hear it without a doubt. This means, you don't need to be looking for something. You hear the song backwards and you hear the "message".
And most people who are against this say it's a coincidence. Well it really isn't even that. It's way to skippy and not recognizable to even be a coincidence! Even Plant said that "it's not my idea of making music". Led Zeppelin was, without a doubt, THE greatest rock band of all time (up there with Pink Floyd). I HIGHLY doubt that this "message" is here on purpose. It sounds nothing like those lyrics that don't make sense anyways. (oppositioner is NOT a word.)
This all started by a bunch of teens in the 70s anyway. Just get over it, IT IS NOT REAL. Yeah it's fun to think about but c'mon, grow up.
Brian [allstarbdt7@yahoo.com]
Comment posted by allstarbdt at 11/28/2005 5:23 PM (Permalink)
First off I would like to say that I have tried listening to Stairway to heaven backwards. I have listened to it on 228Kbs, 128Kbs (CD), and vinyl. Yes, even vinyl, I have every Zep album except I and II. After listening many times without the lyrics in front of me, I have come to the conclusion that about maybe 20-30 words are completely recognizable out of, say, 350 or so? I heard words like "Satan" because I was listening for it. So after listening to it on three different audio qualities, I pulled out the lyrics again (I read them once before listening to the song, so I knew somewhat of what to listen for. I also already had been to the backmasking flash on this site.). This time, I noticed some more words and put together what before sounded like gibberish. This is in a way like an optical illusion, perhaps, it is a mind trick. When you put the "lyrics" of "Stairway to Hell" (which contains no relevancy of the backwards lyrics)in front of you and listen again, you hear the words (some of them). I'd like to point out that "Plaaaay backwards" doesn't sound like that at all, and neither do half the words. It all sounds skippy and not put together.
k.seijas (the author of this) seems to think that "EVERY word from start to finish is undeniable and distinguishable." Really k.seijas? Well according to you, that's only "Easily heard if you know what to look for." Distinguishable is only real if you can hear it without a doubt. This means, you don't need to be looking for something. You hear the song backwards and you hear the "message".
And most people who are against this say it's a coincidence. Well it really isn't even that. It's way to skippy and not recognizable to even be a coincidence! Even Plant said that "it's not my idea of making music". Led Zeppelin was, without a doubt, THE greatest rock band of all time (up there with Pink Floyd). I HIGHLY doubt that this "message" is here on purpose. It sounds nothing like those lyrics that don't make sense anyways. (oppositioner is NOT a word.)
This all started by a bunch of teens in the 70s anyway. Just get over it, IT IS NOT REAL. Yeah it's fun to think about but c'mon, grow up.
Brian [allstarbdt7@yahoo.com]
k.seijas (the author of this) seems to think that "EVERY word from start to finish is undeniable and distinguishable." Really k.seijas? Well according to you, that's only "Easily heard if you know what to look for." Distinguishable is only real if you can hear it without a doubt. This means, you don't need to be looking for something. You hear the song backwards and you hear the "message".
And most people who are against this say it's a coincidence. Well it really isn't even that. It's way to skippy and not recognizable to even be a coincidence! Even Plant said that "it's not my idea of making music". Led Zeppelin was, without a doubt, THE greatest rock band of all time (up there with Pink Floyd). I HIGHLY doubt that this "message" is here on purpose. It sounds nothing like those lyrics that don't make sense anyways. (oppositioner is NOT a word.)
This all started by a bunch of teens in the 70s anyway. Just get over it, IT IS NOT REAL. Yeah it's fun to think about but c'mon, grow up.
Brian [allstarbdt7@yahoo.com]
Comment posted by allstarbdt at 11/28/2005 5:23 PM (Permalink)
First off I would like to say that I have tried listening to Stairway to heaven backwards. I have listened to it on 228Kbs, 128Kbs (CD), and vinyl. Yes, even vinyl, I have every Zep album except I and II. After listening many times without the lyrics in front of me, I have come to the conclusion that about maybe 20-30 words are completely recognizable out of, say, 350 or so? I heard words like "Satan" because I was listening for it. So after listening to it on three different audio qualities, I pulled out the lyrics again (I read them once before listening to the song, so I knew somewhat of what to listen for. I also already had been to the backmasking flash on this site.). This time, I noticed some more words and put together what before sounded like gibberish. This is in a way like an optical illusion, perhaps, it is a mind trick. When you put the "lyrics" of "Stairway to Hell" (which contains no relevancy of the backwards lyrics)in front of you and listen again, you hear the words (some of them). I'd like to point out that "Plaaaay backwards" doesn't sound like that at all, and neither do half the words. It all sounds skippy and not put together.
k.seijas (the author of this) seems to think that "EVERY word from start to finish is undeniable and distinguishable." Really k.seijas? Well according to you, that's only "Easily heard if you know what to look for." Distinguishable is only real if you can hear it without a doubt. This means, you don't need to be looking for something. You hear the song backwards and you hear the "message".
And most people who are against this say it's a coincidence. Well it really isn't even that. It's way to skippy and not recognizable to even be a coincidence! Even Plant said that "it's not my idea of making music". Led Zeppelin was, without a doubt, THE greatest rock band of all time (up there with Pink Floyd). I HIGHLY doubt that this "message" is here on purpose. It sounds nothing like those lyrics that don't make sense anyways. (oppositioner is NOT a word.)
This all started by a bunch of teens in the 70s anyway. Just get over it, IT IS NOT REAL. Yeah it's fun to think about but c'mon, grow up.
Brian [allstarbdt7@yahoo.com]
k.seijas (the author of this) seems to think that "EVERY word from start to finish is undeniable and distinguishable." Really k.seijas? Well according to you, that's only "Easily heard if you know what to look for." Distinguishable is only real if you can hear it without a doubt. This means, you don't need to be looking for something. You hear the song backwards and you hear the "message".
And most people who are against this say it's a coincidence. Well it really isn't even that. It's way to skippy and not recognizable to even be a coincidence! Even Plant said that "it's not my idea of making music". Led Zeppelin was, without a doubt, THE greatest rock band of all time (up there with Pink Floyd). I HIGHLY doubt that this "message" is here on purpose. It sounds nothing like those lyrics that don't make sense anyways. (oppositioner is NOT a word.)
This all started by a bunch of teens in the 70s anyway. Just get over it, IT IS NOT REAL. Yeah it's fun to think about but c'mon, grow up.
Brian [allstarbdt7@yahoo.com]
Comment posted by allstarbdt at 11/28/2005 5:28 PM (Permalink)
First off I would like to say that I have tried listening to Stairway to heaven backwards. I have listened to it on 228Kbs, 128Kbs (CD), and vinyl. Yes, even vinyl, I have every Zep album except I and II. After listening many times without the lyrics in front of me, I have come to the conclusion that about maybe 20-30 words are completely recognizable out of, say, 350 or so? I heard words like "Satan" because I was listening for it. So after listening to it on three different audio qualities, I pulled out the lyrics again (I read them once before listening to the song, so I knew somewhat of what to listen for. I also already had been to the backmasking flash on this site.). This time, I noticed some more words and put together what before sounded like gibberish. This is in a way like an optical illusion, perhaps, it is a mind trick. When you put the "lyrics" of "Stairway to Hell" (which contains no relevancy of the backwards lyrics)in front of you and listen again, you hear the words (some of them). I'd like to point out that "Plaaaay backwards" doesn't sound like that at all, and neither do half the words. It all sounds skippy and not put together.
k.seijas (the author of this) seems to think that "EVERY word from start to finish is undeniable and distinguishable." Really k.seijas? Well according to you, that's only "Easily heard if you know what to look for." Distinguishable is only real if you can hear it without a doubt. This means, you don't need to be looking for something. You hear the song backwards and you hear the "message".
And most people who are against this say it's a coincidence. Well it really isn't even that. It's way to skippy and not recognizable to even be a coincidence! Even Plant said that "it's not my idea of making music". Led Zeppelin was, without a doubt, THE greatest rock band of all time (up there with Pink Floyd). I HIGHLY doubt that this "message" is here on purpose. It sounds nothing like those lyrics that don't make sense anyways. (oppositioner is NOT a word.)
This all started by a bunch of teens in the 70s anyway. Just get over it, IT IS NOT REAL. Yeah it's fun to think about but c'mon, grow up.
Brian [allstarbdt7@yahoo.com]
k.seijas (the author of this) seems to think that "EVERY word from start to finish is undeniable and distinguishable." Really k.seijas? Well according to you, that's only "Easily heard if you know what to look for." Distinguishable is only real if you can hear it without a doubt. This means, you don't need to be looking for something. You hear the song backwards and you hear the "message".
And most people who are against this say it's a coincidence. Well it really isn't even that. It's way to skippy and not recognizable to even be a coincidence! Even Plant said that "it's not my idea of making music". Led Zeppelin was, without a doubt, THE greatest rock band of all time (up there with Pink Floyd). I HIGHLY doubt that this "message" is here on purpose. It sounds nothing like those lyrics that don't make sense anyways. (oppositioner is NOT a word.)
This all started by a bunch of teens in the 70s anyway. Just get over it, IT IS NOT REAL. Yeah it's fun to think about but c'mon, grow up.
Brian [allstarbdt7@yahoo.com]
Comment posted by allstarbdt at 11/28/2005 5:31 PM (Permalink)
im not even sure if people r still reading these messages but i like to see that other people think the same way i do thats y im posting
first off and easy way to hear teh whole song backward is doing this:
download dBpowerAMP music converter
(just type it in google)
download stairway to heaven and send it to my music or somethin then right click it and click convert it with dBpowerAMP then covert it to a WAV file.
after you have converted the file go to sound recorder. most computers with windows have this program. when in sound recorder click open and stairway to heaven shoudl be in the folde ru put it in.
ok now my view of the song
a little background
from wut i have herd/read robert plant bought a huge piece of land that included a beach. on the beach was wut looked ot a be a toolshed (mentioned in the backwards form of the song in the verese of beguinning with "if theres a bustle.." ) ive herd this was a actually a chaple of satan.
also i have herd that plant made up the song on the spot and some of it was derrived form "magic arts in celtic britain". whether or not this is tue i dont know. but if it is true, then tehre is no way anyone could make a such a powerful songs that has many meesage JUST FORWARD, im not even talking backward right now. the song form a poetic point of view is incredible. theres so many aspects to the song. the way the music is played.. is how a heroine triop feels. though i cannot say i have shot heroine i have read a lot about it and kno people that have. the tingly feeling in the beguuinnn when ur chilled out-thats teh intro, the song gradually gets more inteense the high climbs up. at teh end of teh song when it goes nuts..thats thats the peak and when he chills out again- he comes down. also, the part of the song that is most clearly herd backwards is in the middle of the song which is the "if theres a bustle" verse. i think that "god" call him buddah jesus mary joespeh idc wut u call it and teh "devil" fighting over this mans soul. forwards is the stairway to heaven and backward is the stairway to hell. and in teh middle of teh song is mosty clear becuase they both have his soul.
i have only scrathed the surface of wut i have learned form this song but i want to share one more thing that i think cool. in the song i geta strong mental picture of a person walking in the forest and he comes across a forkk in the road and he sees some dude that explains wut each path leads to. but in reality it only confuses teh eprson becuause they dont kno wut they actually want. this shows upina lot of things in movies, books and in everyday life. for example- the wizard of oz..when dorothy meets teh scarecrow and he says oem people go this way some peopl go taht way some ppl go both ways or somethin idk..alice in wonderland she comes aacross a path and gets very confused by the person talking to her..both of those stories r comparable to stairway to heaven in many ways..also teh road not taken by robert frost ahs it. since i figured all that out i have probably come across a fork in the road not just listterally at leat once a day. i kno i sound dumb and i cnat really explain. im sure some people think i sound crazy and some people know exactly what im talkin about cuz they think teh same thing. well if u think im nuts fuck u lol
first off and easy way to hear teh whole song backward is doing this:
download dBpowerAMP music converter
(just type it in google)
download stairway to heaven and send it to my music or somethin then right click it and click convert it with dBpowerAMP then covert it to a WAV file.
after you have converted the file go to sound recorder. most computers with windows have this program. when in sound recorder click open and stairway to heaven shoudl be in the folde ru put it in.
ok now my view of the song
a little background
from wut i have herd/read robert plant bought a huge piece of land that included a beach. on the beach was wut looked ot a be a toolshed (mentioned in the backwards form of the song in the verese of beguinning with "if theres a bustle.." ) ive herd this was a actually a chaple of satan.
also i have herd that plant made up the song on the spot and some of it was derrived form "magic arts in celtic britain". whether or not this is tue i dont know. but if it is true, then tehre is no way anyone could make a such a powerful songs that has many meesage JUST FORWARD, im not even talking backward right now. the song form a poetic point of view is incredible. theres so many aspects to the song. the way the music is played.. is how a heroine triop feels. though i cannot say i have shot heroine i have read a lot about it and kno people that have. the tingly feeling in the beguuinnn when ur chilled out-thats teh intro, the song gradually gets more inteense the high climbs up. at teh end of teh song when it goes nuts..thats thats the peak and when he chills out again- he comes down. also, the part of the song that is most clearly herd backwards is in the middle of the song which is the "if theres a bustle" verse. i think that "god" call him buddah jesus mary joespeh idc wut u call it and teh "devil" fighting over this mans soul. forwards is the stairway to heaven and backward is the stairway to hell. and in teh middle of teh song is mosty clear becuase they both have his soul.
i have only scrathed the surface of wut i have learned form this song but i want to share one more thing that i think cool. in the song i geta strong mental picture of a person walking in the forest and he comes across a forkk in the road and he sees some dude that explains wut each path leads to. but in reality it only confuses teh eprson becuause they dont kno wut they actually want. this shows upina lot of things in movies, books and in everyday life. for example- the wizard of oz..when dorothy meets teh scarecrow and he says oem people go this way some peopl go taht way some ppl go both ways or somethin idk..alice in wonderland she comes aacross a path and gets very confused by the person talking to her..both of those stories r comparable to stairway to heaven in many ways..also teh road not taken by robert frost ahs it. since i figured all that out i have probably come across a fork in the road not just listterally at leat once a day. i kno i sound dumb and i cnat really explain. im sure some people think i sound crazy and some people know exactly what im talkin about cuz they think teh same thing. well if u think im nuts fuck u lol
Comment posted by nick at 12/11/2005 11:03 AM (Permalink)
Ok....
I've said this a million times on my blog...
YOU PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS!!
Stairway to Heaven Has NOTHING to do with satanic worship forward or backwards.
Forward, StH is about materialism in the world, and backwards, it seems to be about an inner struggle between God and Satan.
You people need to READ BETWEEN THE LINES!
Syko (O_o)
I've said this a million times on my blog...
YOU PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS!!
Stairway to Heaven Has NOTHING to do with satanic worship forward or backwards.
Forward, StH is about materialism in the world, and backwards, it seems to be about an inner struggle between God and Satan.
You people need to READ BETWEEN THE LINES!
Syko (O_o)
Comment posted by Syko at 12/14/2005 8:48 AM (Permalink)
I have listened to the whole song backwards on vinyl and i have to admit i could hear words without even looking at a lyrics sheet. To start with i thought this is a complete trick of the brain and we just pick up what we are looking to hear but then i read up on the history of this song and how much relevence there actully is to the words i picked up. This mite b a complete conisedence but i just dont know. There is a bit that talks about "toolshed" like Jimmy page's house Boleskine which was once the site of "a church that burned to the ground with the congregation in it." it has also been said that it was made into a satantic church which was called the "toolhouse" so the "toolshed" would have been the outbuliding the place the people were burnt to death. I think this is either a very weird coinsidence or that this song is almost revealed the pain these people went thru i know how stupid this sounds but this link gave me doubts on that it was jsut a trick https://reversespeech.com/framestairway.htm but i just dont know
Comment posted by cath at 12/17/2005 10:54 AM (Permalink)
... ... ... you can't possibly be real people.
Comment posted by Is Guilt Cowardice? at 12/17/2005 9:09 PM (Permalink)
well, i listened to the whole thing, and, the words are FAR FROM CLEARLY THERE.
The clearest bit is the chorus, and if there is any backward lyrics, the lyrics here are well off.
Enhance the "Satan"s, they do not sound the same. They are more like Sate or Fate in some cases.
Many examples of this, and this is all cos ur brain tries to fillin the blanks in the phonics of the "words" you hear.
Even listen close to the "Israel" at the end, its actually just "Isra", but ur brain thinks, well, what else can it be?
Its coincidence. When I listened to it reversed without reading lyrics 1st I heard barely anything I could call "words", and it was only the bit from the flash movie i recognised.
The clearest bit is the chorus, and if there is any backward lyrics, the lyrics here are well off.
Enhance the "Satan"s, they do not sound the same. They are more like Sate or Fate in some cases.
Many examples of this, and this is all cos ur brain tries to fillin the blanks in the phonics of the "words" you hear.
Even listen close to the "Israel" at the end, its actually just "Isra", but ur brain thinks, well, what else can it be?
Its coincidence. When I listened to it reversed without reading lyrics 1st I heard barely anything I could call "words", and it was only the bit from the flash movie i recognised.
Comment posted by Matt at 12/22/2005 5:29 PM (Permalink)
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